Imagine a Nazi. Now imagine someone who hates Nazis for not being even worse.
I think that’s called a KillerNazi, then there MegaNazis, GigaNatzi and TeraNazis. At some point they’ll come out with PetaNazis, but right now they’re too expensive to be commercially available
It’s made up BS. Most of the conservatives using pepe avatars don’t even know wtf fuentes is. I can confirm because I’m one of those people who wears a pepe the frog mask on forums. The left-wing and MSM hate that conservatives have this mask to anonymize themselves with and they’re trying to peg them all to a white nationalist is an attempt to discredit and take down the entire group.
Well it’s not going to work. I’m going to keep posting conservative things behind a pepe avatar. You can call me whatever you want. Say I’m a follower of fuentes, or hitler, or satan, or devour the souls of the innocent like cthulhu. I don’t care. I’m still gonna wear my frog mask.
Haha… yes, the Pepe mask is for conservatives “to anonymize themselves”, even though the forums and platforms they’re already on are already anonymous?
Don’t kid yourself - its just a virtue signal to the conservative racist ingroup that you’re one of them. Its a ‘safe space hat’.
You reply to some random repost of a Twitter comment that its all part of an evil leftist MSM plot to get rid of the Pepe avatars but you’re standing proud in defiance? Nobody is trying to get rid of them - they’re handy identifiers for trolls and chuds. But yeah, uh… great speech. Preach. Keep your cute frog mask!
the normalization of nazi culture makes me want to fucking die
This lot don’t even have a snazzy dress sense. They should be required to at least do it properly and at least where the uniform, let’s have a bit of self-respect around here.
Wait till you read about the meme wars. This goes deeper than most people know.
This isn’t even getting to the part where Nick Fuentes gets red in the face arguing that he’s definitely a real incel, and denying accusations that he secretly gets laid.
He fucked that catboy didn’t he?
I wonder if he found a cute catboy earlier in life he would have turned out differently
The fuckers can carry on knocking each other off and Vlad should advise them to use the 6th floor windows and balconies instead of bullets.
Context? What’s the other faction? The first one is likely https://wiki.froth.zone/wiki/Groypers?lang=en but I dunno the second.
The other faction got shot in the neck.
From what I’m gathering, it seems like one group is more “traditionally” American racism… And the other group is more like WW2 Nazi racists?
Either way, they’re racists and not worth the oxygen they’re consuming.
Can I just continue to have incredible distain for all racism? Because I’d hate to be branded as a sympathizer to either group. They both sound horrible.
The only surprising thing to me here is that racists hate eachother enough for this level of violence. I don’t necessarily consider that a bad thing, I just thought they would… I dunno, bond over their mutual hatred of other races, rather than fight eachother over who is more racist.
… Not that I’m complaining. Having racists kill other racists makes it easier to fight against the groups that remain. Both groups of racists deserve to be put down. Not that I have the ability, capability, opportunity nor motivation to do that work myself… I’m just not going to complain when one group kills the other, and the first group ends up in jail for life because of it. Honestly, that’s an absolute win IMO.
Authoritarians, which are not unrelated to racism, if left alone, will start stripping rights from each other. In a spherical cow sense, they can’t really bond with each other because they fundamentally hate other people, like as a concept. This is also sorta why their social media sites never take off.
I generally hate people. I don’t want to be authoritative over anyone. I don’t want the responsibility.
I wonder if their hate is just a side effect of wanting to be superior over others. And that’s what drives their base actions.
More or less, yes. It’s the satisfaction that comes from power.
The main ingredients of fascism are fear (urgency) and a desire to reclaim a power once held, like in a birthright sense. A result of this is that the power they hold now is a result of the fear they’ve fostered, which means they quite literally cannot survive people becoming unafraid. There must always be a group of people to hate, even amongst each other, or the kingdom they’ve built vanishes.
Edgelords that treat their racism and violence as fuel for shitposts
vs.
Traditional “Brick and mortar and nooses” racists
Potato, potato.
My one consolation over finding out about this whole fight between different groups of fascists (besides the fact that the fascists are fighting each other, that’s always a net positive) is that I can refer to it as gang violence.
Kirk was killed in a turf war between his gang and a rival gang immediately after trying to downplay mass shootings by asking “with or without gang violence?”
Wasn’t he saying something about “gang violence” literally the moment he got shot?
His literal last words before being shot were answering the question of if he knew how many shootings there have been in the past 10 years (after blaming them on trans people one question before) with, “With or without gang violence?” Not even a second later he had a fountain of blood spurting from his neck.
Just when I thought it couldn’t get any more ironic
Yes you can. But nobody else will, especially not those in power, because we live in an extremely racist “culture.”
Of course they won’t, but you can rage bait conservatives super hard with it by twisting every racist thing they say about black people being gang-bangers back on them.
So the one thing about fascism, especially in its late stages, is that it tends to eat itself alive. When they run out of enemies, they create enemies.
late stage
You are far more optimistic than I, my friend.
I mean the government isn’t necessarily late stage but if the fascists are fighting over who’s the biggest fascist that means shit’s up.
Maybe, but authoritarian regimes do often purge their ranks, and it doesn’t always mean anything significant is going down.
While I agree fascist tend to indulge in self harm via factionalism, I don’t think this is really that, nor is it late stage. We’re approaching the stage where the fascist shed their traditional conservative mask and start enforcing their real ideology over the traditional conservative party.
People forget that 4 years before the Nazi started their purge on greater German society during Kristallnacht they first purged and consolidated power in their own house during the night of the long knives.
This is it.
The “true believers” in neoliberal conservative values are useful to make the rightward march to increasingly reactionary politics seem proper and reasonable to anyone who isn’t paying attention.
But when shit is about to go down those same talking heads are a liability if they aren’t cool with barely contained barbarism.
This is not the late stages. This is not even the honeymoon.
According to the show and soon to be documentary, Cyberpunk 2077, it’s gonna get weird.
I didn’t even know about the Groypers till Charlie Kirk was killed by one.
I only knew Nick Fuentes as “That guy who tried to sue Antifa” and later “The Right Winger who disavowed Trump in 2024”
Apparently there’s controversy about him not “really” being an Incel because he had a girlfriend in high school, and he believes anything outside of being celibate is gay, because being affectionate with a woman is unmanly… and I’m like…
“This is too much even for me.”
I know him as “that MAGA loser who’s a fiercly proud incel and got caught with tabs of gay porn open on a stream”.
But to be honest I thought he had completely vanished into insignificance over the last 5 years. Sadly this appears incorrect.
I didn’t even know about Charlie Kirk until Charlie Kirk was killed by a groyper. I knew there was some rightwing crank being mocked for having a tiny face on a huge head, but that was it. My main reaction after the shooting was “damn, that really is a tiny face”.
He was the splitting image of the default Mii character.
They had to go for the neck because the face was too small a target.
I only learned about him when I was still on Reddit via people posting quotes on the ‘whitepeopletwitter’ subreddit. Between him, Steven Crowder, Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh being constantly posted there, I damn near lost my mind at the sheer combined idiocy of them all and had to unsub.
Lol exactly the same here
Wait’ll you hear about that time Fuentes accidentally streamed himself watching gay porn. Or his date with a catboy!
Go on
Lots of info on Nick can be found on his RationalWiki entry. See the “Haggard’s Law” section for info and links to sources about the things I mentioned.
I’m sorry to ask, but is there a source that isn’t Rational Wiki?
No no, I shouldn’t let my own issues with the site get in the way of good faith reporting. I’ll have a look at this when I can
There are a lot of sources. Try the following search engine queries:
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Nick Fuentes streams gay porn
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Nick Fuentes Catboy Date
Nick Fuentes Catboy Date
That sounds like name of a softcore visual novel on Steam.
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It’s about whether you hate Jewish people the right way or not. It has nothing to do with brown people as both groups equally hate them.
Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.
Kirk supports Israel and Fuentes and the groypers do not.
supported please.
Im sorry, what are you asking for?
I enjoy the use of past tense when he is mentioned. Now that we know he died by the hands of people just like him its even better. White on white. Hate on hate.
Other than the fact both were white Im not sure you can say they are “just like him”. There’s some significant differences in their views even if he turns out to be a groyper.
The only real difference is one was pro Israel and the other wasn’t.
Exactly, Kirk would let my Jewish family members he but would really hope they move to Israel so they can die and Jesus return. Fuentes would outwardly hate these same family members.
There’s some significant differences in their views
lmao. Ok yeah. Deep differences between nazis and the kkk too. Real important to remember!!! \s \s \s jfc.
there are difference between nazis and the KKK and you would have to be incredibly ignorant to not see them if you look for them. You dont fight brain cancer and skin cancer the same way despite both being cancers.
Nazis hate ______ and KKK hates ______
Both believe white christians are a “superior race” and use fear, disinformation, and violence to make their views clear.
What’s the difference outside of who’s the target of their ire?
I think they are asking you to use past tense even discussing attributes of the awful former human charlie kirk.
I see it as a light hearted joke, but with an undertone of “but seriously fuck that guy – sorry, former guy”
This
parrotracist has ceased to be! He is a former bigot!“light hearted” yeah my heart soars
I have a feeling the trial is going to be a cringe fest of internet memes. Lawyers explaining to the jury what 4chan and pepe is. The trial Charlie Kirk deserves.
“So how do we know this chinese furry sniper known as 4chan might not be a Muslim?”
https://youtu.be/EM-booRzCYY https://youtu.be/3KO8OPejaXY?t=3m18s
I KNOW RIGHT???
And people were like “oh the killer carved UWU what’s this and Helldivers 2 memes on his bullets, that’s common in Groyper circles”
Bro are you talking aboutttttt, what do you mean???
I just find it absurd how these niche-in-a-niche-in-a-niche communities develop and how seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles inside, it reaches a point where I’m just like dude, our lizard brains can’t handle the internet. We just weren’t wired to work like this, there’s no wayI saw someone who described the murder as a shitpost and that scarily makes sense.
The world’s first shitpost murder. Insane.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/46016750
Here’s the link.
I really, truly, with all of my being, feel that we are reaching the end limits of what the human mind is currently able to contend with. We are so overstimulated it’s insane. We literally need to evolve our physical bodies as a species to continue living as we are or we will literally die.
Or maybe just not go on the internet so much?
Most people are addicted. It’s like you are saying “Just stop smoking cigarettes so often”
That’s a more reasonable suggestion than “evolve more lungs”
With cigarettes, we recognized the harm that they did and in response developed a series of regulations about where they could be used, who could use them when, how they could be advertised, warning labels that had to be applied, and taxes on them to discourage use and offset the societal harm. As result we get this:
…and this…
The internet is a tricky one on account of it absolutely having crossover with the first amendment, but there’s got to be a conversation about its effect on mental health and what if anything can be done in response.
Personally I am in favor of regulating the internet but the potential censorship concerns are a serious issue with actually doing it
now do meat and the leading causes of human death
I’m not even sure anymore what this analogy is about but 🤣
Sorry man, but it’s going to get worse before it gets better.
And I have no idea if it’s ever getting better
I don’t even want to bring up brain chips, there’s plenty of people who already think they have them. Imagine the psychosis.
There is no limit. Things are really really bad? They can always get worse. Rock bottom is a flawed analogy.
The drill is mightier than the rock
seemingly random bits of internet culture turn into dogwhistles
My favorite thing is the neonazis wearing pleated khakis. Like, the only item of clothing even nerdier than that is lederhosen.
If this is gonna be a One Piece pirate flag kinda future, does that mean we can wear sailor slops?
We can only hope.
Pirates are in this year
My nephew is being sent to an evangelical school whose uniform is khakis and a choice of a red or blue polo shirt. Want to guess which color is social suicide?
Im no longer talking to that part of my family.
Do they all look like they work at Target?
No, these are expensive khakis.
I’m a grown-ass, nearly 40 year-old family man, and I fucking know what “uwu” is. These idiots think they’re “exposing the conspiracy”, when in reality anyone who has spent more than 4 seconds researching any meme would immediately recognize it.
It wasn’t even “uwu” meme
It was the “OwO what’s this?” Meme. Which makes it even weirder/funnier/messed up
What’s the difference? ELIA5 please, I don’t know if I have time to go down this rabbit hole myself.
One is a generic emoticon, while “OwO what’s this?” is an (in)famous meme from the furry fandom
Same difference. It’s used interchangeably.
eh, not really.
one is more a “uwu sowwy” the other is surprised/shocked/curious expression
I still don’t understand, but I learned one thing, when a meme seems to do not have a meaning, it’s fascists crap.
Those guys always miss humor totally.
It’s this face. Like :) is a smile and xD is supposed to be somebody laughing so hard their eyes have squinted shut.
owo is the same face, but the eyes are open.
Edit: I have misread. You do understand it lmao
I always equated “XD” with Eric Cartman 😂
Edit: I have misread. You do understand it lmao
No worries!
I can’t even parse that as a face
If anyone’s feeling pretty hopeless about finding this out for the first time, I recommend this documentary about the cartoon frog’s creator suing Alex Jones and trying to take back his ownership over Pepe from the white power weirdos. It’s very uplifting and the artist is a pretty likable guy.
I instantly dislike the guy.
Probably had to do with the country copyright laws :/ I had personal videos blocked because they used music that in over country was free to use and in others wasn’t… or maybe he hates you in particular 🤷♀️
Oh, thanks for sharing this experience, because that makes totally sense to me. The error message is kind of misleading and gave me the impression the blocking was on purpose.
Documentary guy is a good guy after all.
Fuck Youtube and all the music industry.
Check if any invidious instance can play it, or NewPipe/PipePipe on android
Thank you my friend, what a good suggestion. Next thing would be to just use archive.org. However, for this I would need some help.
If you’re on desktop/laptop, FreeTube works pretty well too (has invidious functionality built in)
Dang I didn’t know users did that on YouTube. I guess I can’t say I blame you, it’s a shitty thing to do
They don’t. It’s regional restriction.
Oh. That is what I used to assume. Was Zr0 just messing with me?
No, Zr0 made an uninformed assumption as well.
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