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  • Sheep are incredibly expensive to farm as well which is why the meat cost so much.

    People think sheep are dumb but that isn’t true, they are anti-intelligent, they secretly hide vast intelligences that they use to come up with ingenious ways to injure or kill themselves. You can put goats in a field and fence them off and be reasonably confident that you will still have all of your goats when you come back in the morning.
    Sheep on the other hand will use their psychic abilities to manifest some broken glass, and then step on it.

    Then the supermarkets don’t want to pay very much for them and so now you’ve spent a lot of money looking after them and got very little in the way of return.

    The only reason that sheep were traditionally found was because you could put them on pastures of land that was completely unsuitable for any other animal. But it’s the supermarket aren’t willing to pay a fair price then that doesn’t really count for anything.




  • Ok but walk it back a bit, why did they become homeless?

    If somebody is completely 100% mentally healthy I can’t see how an AI can convince them to kill themselves any more than another person could convince them to kill themselves. Only vulnerable people join cults, because it’s difficult to pray on people who have proper defences.

    I’m still not convinced that the AI isn’t just triggering some underlying mental condition that other people in their lives are just not aware of or not willing to accept.


  • Some people think that LLMs are true AGI or at least they have thoughts that run along those lines even if they can’t articulate it like that.

    They tend to be people who aren’t particularly tech savvy and so they see this thing that seems to be pretty much a miracle of technology and believe that it truly is a super intelligence.

    I’ve seen evolution simulators come up with some truly interesting behaviour, like finding shortcut glitches in Mario that no human has ever found, if I didn’t know how the program worked I suppose I might believe that there was some intelligence there.


  • I’d had a negative opinion of Asimov’s laws of robotics being used to control AI for most of my life, and LaMDA successfully persuaded me to change my opinion.

    Then he’s an idiot.

    Asimov’s laws of robotics aren’t some kind of model by which to control AI, there are plot device. They’re literally not supposed to work, if they did work it would be a very short book, so obviously we shouldn’t use them for controlling AI.

    I don’t know any serious IT professional that has ever, at any point, ever forwarded the opinion that an AI (should we ever a create one, because there is an arguement that LLMs aren’t AI) should be ruled by a plot device from a book. Equally if we ever invent warp drive and find aliens I’m assuming we’re not going to be restricted to the prime directive.


  • I think the important point here is that just because the father is doing Google doesn’t necessarily mean that Google are at fault. People tend to feel that if an individual is suing a corporation for malfeasance the corporation is necessarily guilty. But reality doesn’t always run like that.

    I can’t see any reason that Google would want to encourage more suicide so I have to assume that it’s just an unfortunate interaction of a mentally unsound mind and a product that frankly even its own creators don’t understand. This is highly unfortunate but I’m not certain where the crime was.


  • Yes people can have mental delusions and psychotic episodes; I’m not necessarily convinced that they are a separate unique condition simply because they were triggered by an AI versus anything else.

    For one thing I’ve yet to hear a decent (or indeed any) explanation as to the mechanism by which AI triggers psychosis that is materially different from any other trigger. Most people who suffer from this condition can be triggered by literally anything, including mundane things such as seeing a red cars slightly more often than they believe they should, then they concoct this conspiracy about an evil cabal of red car owners.









  • In most cases suicide isn’t anyone’s fault. People like to find someone to blame, and I get that, but people who are even remotely close to doing that, were always going to find a way and a justification.

    No AI is going to convince me to kill myself if I didn’t already want to. Equally the inverse must also be true.

    That’s not to say that the companies are completely off the hook, it’s utterly ridiculous that these conversations weren’t flagged and sent to a human, but I think it’s daft to suggest that these people would necessarily still be alive had the AI not existed.



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    I hate chatbots because they don’t work. If any of this technology actually operated as advertised I would be ecstatic. But none of it does.

    Not only has AI failed to give us a warp drive, it’s also failed to do my very simple job for me.


  • I have barely used any of the AI products that have been around for the last few years. But what little I have used them for they’ve been fairly adequate for my desires I can’t imagine paying for that though.

    Like I use co-pilot (because management insist we use it for something), to rewrite emails into corporate speak. And I guess it’s nice not to have to do that anymore but it’s not something I’d pay for.

    I just don’t understand these AI bros I really don’t.