The Reverend Sue Parfitt, from Bristol, was detained for holding a placard that read: “I oppose genocide. I support Palestine Action.” She was among more than 27 people arrested on Saturday for acts of defiance against the proscription.

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    Uh, I’ve had enuff of shitty news; let’s switch to another timeline.

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    Look at that diabolical criminal. I hope they reopen London tower just to hang her from it. After she bakes everyone cookies with afternoon tea.

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    If she were in the US, she would be pushed to the ground and beaten by a bunch of white guys in riot gear and masks.

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    As someone stated… The police are not your friend. They are not there to serve and protect your interests. They are there to serve and protect the interests of the state you live in.

    The other day my wife’s car stopped at a busy road. The police quickly arrived and asked if she had crashed on to my car. Like how can we take this unfortunate event and turn it into a profitable situation where they can impound the car…oh it’s just engine failure, well you’re blocking the road so I’ll call the most expensive possible tow truck. How can we make your day worse?

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      Genocide accomplices!

      Everyone involved with this “law” should be tried and hung in the Hague for aiding and abetting crimes against humanity.

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    Just wondering, if I would hold up a sign with ‘go isreal, continue the amazing work you do!’, would that get me arrested? Surely i’d get beat up but i mean what would the lawmakers think of that? Would it be different if the sign would say ‘go isreal, murder those innocent families’ or ‘go isreal, your genocide rules!’ (am i allowed to call it a genocide if i’m not against it?)

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      make is sarcastic, the British way.

      go on the telly, then show them a mirror to themselves. talk how excited you are for how many humanitarian volunteers are being slaughtered, how clever is it to stave children so they can take their land…

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      What really happened here: Members of this Palestine Action group sneaked onto a military base and attacked the aircrafts there. This act of politically motivated vandalism resulted in this group being officially banned by the government. Which is totally ok, no state in the world will and can tolerate some group doing acts of terrorism and/or doing sabotage.

      Supporting banned terrorist organizations is of course also not allowed (which really makes sense) and yeah, this priest totally did that on purpose. You are therefore totally fine holding up a sign supporting Israel and you are also totally fine holding up a sign supporting Palestine, but you are not fine holding up signs supporting banned organizations.

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        You’re equating vandalism to terrorism, you might want to look up the meaning of those words.

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          The British House of Commons voted by 385 votes to 26 to add Palestine Action to the list of terrorist groups proscribed under the Terrorism Act. Maybe you want to tell us why your definition of terrorism is different from the one in the British parliament?

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        Nah, Labeling them as “terrorists” is disproportionate.

        Criminals, yes. Terrorists, no.

        The definition of terrorism under british law can apply to basically any protest group and if applied retroactively would drag things like the suffragette movement under the umbrella of terrorism.

        This move is an assault on all of our freedom of speech

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        Attacked aircraft? By smacking the landing gear with her walker?

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          Please inform yourself: People of the Palestine Action group have sneaked upon a british military airfield and sprayed paint into the jet engines of several RAF planes.

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            So? Did the paint damage the planes? The RAF should give them an award for exposing the vulnerabilities in its security measures.

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    They’re calling these people terrorists for holding signs calling for the end of Israel’s genocide. They’re not calling the people who have been committing genocide every day terrorists: they’re valuable allies. This is the UK Government’s morality. I hope it’s not shared by the British people.

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      Technically it’s because some members of the group trespassed in a military base and vandalised an airplane. Which is trespassing and vandalism. Not terrorism. Unless Starmer has been watching too much Thomas & the Friends and Pixar’s Cars and believes that the poor planes can’t sleep at night anymore, because they are terrified.

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      No they’re not. There’s a difference between “Palestine Action” (the group) and “actions and other stuff in favour of Palestine”. The former has been banned, the latter has not. Protesting is legal in the UK; vandalising Air Force equipment is not.

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        Damaging equipment that is being used to conduct genocide is not vandalism, it’s human fucking decency.

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              You might want to re-read that article. It doesn’t mention Gaza once. Here are some quotes:

              “fighting between Israel and Iran”
              “protect UK personnel and bases in the Middle East”
              “we’ve never been involved in attacking with Israel”
              “we’ve got assets out there they need to be protected given Iran has suggested they might be under threat”

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                Oh I’m sorry, I thought the recent moves deepening the existing framework was proof enough. You want to go back instead.

                Let’s try this one: https://aje.io/78f3r5

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        Not even close, I mean you probably colonized my people good and tried to beat the Indian out of us, for which I hold a grudge, particularly to the church. But don’t let my criticism deflect from your attempt at a strawman rant. You probably wouldn’t even be able to find my country on the map, since it’s not a white nation.

        P.s. the Americans are the bastard children of Europe, not of my people, so don’t put that on me.

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            Hey what’s the difference between and American and a European? An ocean and some bicycles.

            You’ll both fuck me equally while moralizing. Aside from that, you’re just as bad and pretentious and toxic as Americans

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    A very proactieve protestor and spunky woman of the cloth, who seems to have been arrested 27-28 times already. According to this profile publication she claims she “has militant dna, as a maternal ancestor was accused of sedition in the 18th century”.

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      What a Fucking Legend!!! People such as her should be our icons. Not the plastic ridiculous people that the legacy media and the algorithimc social media keep pushing out like clowns to the circus floor to keep people distracted.

      Sue Parfitt. Let’s remember her name. In fact I’m gonna save this post.

      And while I’m not one to support religion, between her and the reverend that gave that sermon to Trump’s face in church, I would say “Lady Priests” (apologies for the reductionism) are having a moment and showing the cloth that apparently only the women in it seem to remember what “their calling” is supposed to be all about.

      If anyone knows the name of the woman that gave that sermon, tag it under. Please.

      It’s not about supporting the church, it’s about giving credit where credit is due.

      In fact, we should start making a record of the people who are raising to the occasion these days all over the world, and taking the moral stand and give them the space and the limelight, instead of allowing everything to be about the shitty people doing their shitty deeds. That takes so much of the bandwith as it is, and makes us feel alone in the face of it all.

      Be it about the atrocities being committed in Gaza, Ukraine, the U.S. or in any place where wrongful actions are occurring, let us make visible the people that raise to face it. Let us put forward the faces and voices of the ones who still truly give the word “humanity” some of its supposed meaning back.

      PS: A lot of people here might not be able to read Spanish. But I do and I really liked the article you linked. It was a really nice complement to the one linked in the post. So, thank you for sharing it.

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        What a Fucking Legend!!! People such as her should be our icons

        Great pickup up and I fully agree.

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        Praising a good priest is not much different than praising a good republican. You can be a good person without associating yourself to corrupted political parties or bigot cults

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          I understand your anger. I really do. But may I remind you that the Republicans were the ones who took a stand to abolish slavery and even died for it not that long ago really. And look at where they are now.

          It’s people like this woman that are fencing any movement from turning corrupt and vile. Unfortunately all too often there’s not enough of them to stop it from happening.

          She most likely saw the cloth as a way to reach and help people in need. As it is one way of doing it. And given her very advanced age, when she was young, it was probably one of the very few that existed at her disposal. Especially as a woman.

          And you shouldn’t conflate the identity of individuals with the institutions they’re a part of or with their social descriptors. That is precisely what you hate about these groups you brought up. So don’t play for the opposite team and act the same way they do.

          And by the way, you were downvoted but I wasn’t one of the ones who did it. As I do think your anger towards these institutions is absolutely warranted and justified. I feel the same way. Just don’t let that keep you from recognising a decent human being when it is very much the case. Otherwise, you allowed them to turn you into what we both hate about what these institutions represent.

          This woman is on everyone’s side because she’s fighting for everyone. Even though I’m not religious, I recognise that I aspire to the same as her.

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            I’m gonna try it again maybe this time you will understand: praising a good priest is not much different than praising a good scientologis, you can be a good person without associating yourself to a cult that threat people to believe in ghosts

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              Why this level of vitriol and condescension in this exchange?

              I’m also going to repeat… Taking your stance to an extreme, and you have yourself a reductionist view of the world with nothing but intolerance or hatred for those who don’t share it. Sounds familiar?

              I don’t know what’s going on in your life, you could be going through something and I don’t want to add more to the pile of what you’re already dealing with. So I’m just gonna leave this here, because I suspect that even my concerning tone right now will read as passive aggressive to you. It isn’t. But I can’t control that.

              So take care.

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        I saved your post about saving a post because it makes me less depressed and more warm and fuzzy inside. You are a good person and you clearly care <3

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          Oh, thank you so much. I wish I let myself believe that I am what you just described. You do seem to fit the description you assigned me very well from this very brief interaction.

          Let us all keep spreading warm and fuzzy feels on and on to as many people as we can.

          The world certainly needs an antidote to spread against the vile current that is dragging us all into a hole of despair.

          We can’t let that happen!

          Unfortunately, I often do let myself go in that direction.

          So thank you for pulling me the other way.

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          Does it matter? I’m sure a lot of people in whatever country you live in support the genocide. There are idiots in every religion, country, group etc. does not always make the entire group rotten.

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      The entirety of the current Government owe their jobs to Israel, as the last leader of their party - Jeremy Corbyn - was kicked out opening the way for these ones to get power after a campaign of slanders of anti-semitism backed amongst others by Israeli-linked Jewish groups in the UK which was so extreme that at one point a Jewish Holocaust Survivor was said to be an anti-semite for what he said in a conference for Palestine in order to taint Jeremy Corbyn by association, as he was sitting in the same panel in that conference and “didn’t rise up to dispute it”.

      Since Britain also has First Past The Post like the US, getting the leadership of that party was a guaranteed path to Government since that party was the next in line in the power cycle over there.

      So these people were basically bought by Israel.

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          China and Russia are colonial powers, too.

          Crazy how tankies think it’s only ok if you do it to your neighbours.

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            To be fair, China does it all over, especially in Africa. Russia probably would too if they could.

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              The Russian Federation is de facto a Moscowite empire. And they are trying their best to annex more countries into their “Federation”.

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                Oh, for sure. I just meant they’d be doing it overseas if they could. Right now they’re only able to do it locally, and are currently not able to continue because Ukraine is holding them off.