• JackBinimbul@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Wife used to be a teacher. Key word USED to.

    Had a student who regularly threatened to kill her and destroyed her classroom at least twice a week. She would have to clear all the students into the hall while he went on a rampage in there.

    The AP would just come down and give him video games to “calm him down”. Guess who learned to freak out for rewards?

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    This isn’t even that bad.

    The reason bullies get away with being bullies at school is cause their parents also tend to be bullies. So when the little shit gets in trouble for being a bully, his fat parents will waddle in and bully the stuff and faculty for daring to discipline their little skid mark. Faculty don’t wanna deal with this, so they let the little shits get away with everything and only punishing the kids who fight back

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    Punch a teacher in the face, get a free banana. Sounds like a great deal for the kid. Maybe if he shoots his teacher he’ll get a “calming Nintendo”.

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    Dear Parent,

    In an effort to break the routine of unacceptable parenting, I would like to demonstrate what you can do with banans. First, get a large bunch of preferrably green bananas. Remove two of these bananas from the bunch. Take one banana, and insert the stem rigorously into your right ear canal. Repeat with the other banana in your left ear canal. Do not remove the banana until they begin to wither.

    And thats it!

    The effort to reduce your child’s violent outbursts remains the same, but at least you will be able to share your Superpower of Narrow Intelligence with the public! Everyone will unequivocally know that you are a moron.

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    All the problematic peers I’ve known either were born into a neglectful or hostile household, or were neurodivergent of some kind and didn’t fit in with the environment we were in, since those who were typical and were born into understanding families would just do what they were supposed to do.

    Due to how schools where I live are supposed to be looking out for signs of neurodivergence or other differences, while also being underfunded without a justification, many students aren’t even seen and once they get to middle or high school, they become the violent and problematic ones.

    Then again though, it’s also the parents’ responsibility to make sure their own child is heard and cared for to prevent such outbursts from happening in the first place, and those neglectful or hostile households are likely a result of the parents not understanding what being mentally healthy means.

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    I’m a teacher assistant, 80% sure I want to go into teaching (students assaulting me isn’t holding me back. Its just the self confidence of stepping up and leading the class is what’s holding me back. And granted, I’m not in the USA, so I don’t fear school shootings)

    I’ve had students punch me. I’ve had students slam doors hard enough to break windows. But I also remember seeing the students learn something. The way their face lights up when they are smarter than their friend, or when they make a connection in math. THATS what is bringing me back to the classroom.

    The shy kid in yr 8 is now school captain. The kid I personally nicknamed ‘Cartman’ because that was his personality, is helping the new kid around school when teachers aren’t looking.

    Remember the good bits

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      80% sure I want to go into teaching

      Judging by the rest of your message, I think you’d be a great teacher, you should become one.

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        Thank you for the encouraging words. I was going to make a comment about “that’s 4 years of study, just for a maybe I will like it”. But this year (well, this July) marks 4 years of being a Teacher Assistant, and I’m still ready for another 4 years…

        All the signs say “go for it”, but the leadership…

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          The decision is yours to make after all, and it’s a pretty important one. But I think any educational system (wherever you’re from, doesn’t matter) can always use more teachers that actually care for their students and aren’t there just to have a job, which isn’t always the case unfortunately.

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      the self confidence of stepping up and leading the class is what’s holding me back

      You get used to it, especially after a few times of going through and refining your material. Once you have a clearer vision of the outcome you want a class to have, it’s a lot easier to figure out how you can guide groups of students to that point, even if the group dynamics change from year to year.

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      The kid I personally nicknamed ‘Cartman’ because that was his personality, is helping the new kid around school when teachers aren’t looking.

      Should we be worried that Cartman is helping other kids, or is that a sign that he really grew and matured as a person?

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    "Ah yes, the ancient cure for physical assault: potassium. I’m sure the glasses will magically fix themselves once he finishes his ‘Superpower’ fruit. 🍌👓

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    On top of all of this, at least in my country, the pay is shit. And no government past or present seems interested in changing it so…

    Always the same story on loop.
    “Nobody wants to work anymore” - Because the pay is shit.
    “We’re struggling to fill positions” - Because the pay is shit.
    "This generation is laz— The. Pay. Is. Shit.

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      I was getting paid more than my teacher friends working in the office being a entry-level data entry person. It sucks how we undervalue teachers.

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    As student services this year: two broken pairs of glasses, one broken finger, laceration to my face from flying objects, sexual assault (breast bitten, fingers rammed into my junk) among the more memorable. I spent the holidays limping from being knocked into a wall. A typical day includes being hit with items, punched, and kicked. I barely notice being physically assaulted or death threats. The SA was mainly notable because it became a dcf call. To be clear, the teacher or peer is the first target and the onus is often on them to protect the peer so they get the worst of it while being paid less.

    I wish them all the best, my last day is very soon.

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      “it is very unfortunate that our Jaeydighn used the calming banana as a weapon but we believe it’s important for him to express himself freely and from now on we will peel it in an effort to make the impact softer for everyone involved.”

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    People will do anything but seek out a therapist. The kid may have a behavioral disorder, and seeking referrals for conduct disorder or something is usually a joint effort since parents get defensive even when such a disorder is often biological, like depression.

    Or, y’know, zero tolerance bullshit and the kid gets expelled. That’s more common in the US.

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      Expelled? If they’re Black we just send them right to prison!

      Sadly this isn’t a joke

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        Yes, depending on the age and if police are on campus. Police tend to be permanent on some campuses for “security” but schools with them statistically show a much higher rate of incarceration. Although expulsion is also a fast track to prison, too.

        Unsurprisingly, police tend to be in predominantly black schools, although even in desegregated schools (for which there are very few), it’s black students most likely to get in trouble for acting out. Socioeconomic status accounts for some of this, though.

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            By fucking the economy so hard they most people live paycheck to paycheck, no savings, and since there’s no universal healthcare people need to pay therapy from money they don’t have.

            This is by design, keep the poor poor so they don’t learn enough and get enough resources to change things. Things like fair pay and healthcare cost a lot to industries that pay lobbyists.

            If the current status is costing the government more than universal healthcare, who is pocketing the difference? Hospitals, insurance companies.

            Yeah, “they choose that”. “They” being the industries that pay lobbyists to make sure that “that” keeps happening, and “that” being US citizens not being able to afford therapy, in between other things.

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      My sister in law and her husband are these people.

      She had a kid in high school was non-verbal autistic that she gave up for adoption and ignored. Her first son with her husband was definitely on the spectrum and struggled hard in social situations and in school. School actually pushed for the diagnosis, but there were the “no way. Not my kid.” Kind of people. And did nothing.

      Their second kid came along and hes further along the spectrum than their other kid. He’s 6 and still not potty trained and barely talking. My 4 year old passed him developmentally a year or more ago, which seems to have been the catalyst for them to seek help.

      Both kids are doing better no that theyre seeing specialist and on development plans with the school. I just cant believe they waited so long… especially because her brother has a son who is also non verbal autistic, and his parents got him diagnosed before i even knew you could see those traits in children

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      People will do anything but seek out a therapist.

      Bananas are a lot more affordable (for now).

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      I work at a school and I received training that explicitly told us zero tolerance does not work, made me do a double take. So in at least the northern states things are changing for the better.

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        Yup, I teach at University in California and get to cite that. It’s a little counter intuitive for people, but it’s true and much better for teachers to understand. I imagine some places ignore data, though.

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      I mean, that depends on the age. If that kid is 7 or older, yeah, you should probably look into therapy to figure out where that behavior is coming from. 5 or 6, well, kids are still developing emotional regulation at that point. I’m not saying the reaction should be, “OK, we packed a banana,” but probably something more like, “Oh no, I’m so sorry, we’re going to have a talk about how it’s never OK to hit, have you witnessed this kind of behavior before?” then offer to pay for the glasses. (Also, packing a banana isn’t a bad idea, as well as making sure he’s getting enough sleep. 9 times out of 10, when young kid gets disregulated, they’re over-tired or hungry).

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      I’m here thinking people are so quick to insist on therapy. We don’t even know if they’ve tried to discipline their child like a normal parent should.

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        In many ways, bad parenting is often why people go to therapy in the first place, haha. That said, I’m referring to something unrelated to parenting, as there are an assortment of disorders that have little to do with parenting.

        Also, discipline is tricky; parents have to use more than punishment in their toolbox, like praise for good work, modeling kindness, etc., and avoid modeling physical punishment since that tends to be the main reason a kid hit other kids… although I doubt the banana parents hit their kids.

        Screening can help identify the cause of problematic behavior. In the US, that legally is required by the schools in federal law (i.e. IDEA), but obviously enforcing said law isn’t happening, even in better administrations.

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      It’s kind of amazing how nobody suspects the teacher or the school when they’re the most obvious culprits in ruining the lives of children.