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    We failed when acting like an asshole changed from being rudeness and the implied lack of civilisation and instead became a sign of dominance, like in a wildlife documentary.

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      They’re just “alphas”… Trapped little pissants trying desperately to control any aspect of their life that they’ve utterly failed to develop in to a satisfactory existence. If only they’d realize it wasn’t everyone around them’s fault, and instead direct their ire at the rich pieces of shit draining any and all wealth from society.

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    Probably wouldn’t hurt if all the phone manufacturers hadn’t decided to remove the input for the most widely used and cheapest style of headphone connector

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      Don’t get me wrong, I hate the loss of the 3.5mm jack a lot, but bluetooth earbuds have gotten down to ~$20. On the cheap end, they’re not that much more expensive than wired earbuds were, and they’re a fraction of the price of the smartphone they’d be watching content on. I’d also argue that they last longer, as when I was buying cheap wired earbuds, it was usually the jack or the connection to the bud that failed and forced me to get replacements. Even though I’m still buying the cheapest kind, these days I usually only have to replace the buds after I lose them.

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        You know, phones with audio jacks also have bluetooth, right? There are also several kinds of headphones with removable/replacable wires.

        It is still unquestionably a removal of choice and convenience for the shitheads to have removed the jack.

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        They are down to $5 on the cheap end. They were already under $20 more than half a decade ago, I bought my OG redmi airdors for $13 in 2019. Those were the budget kings at the time and didn’t sound worse than $13 wired headphones, although battery life was pretty bad at that time still

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        You have to pick a higher end phone and a lower end earbuds to get to ‘a fraction of the price’ in realistic terms. The very cheapest headphones aren’t going to sound good or last long, and are still going to be in the range of 1/5th of the price of a budget phone vs 1/16 out something that is more in line with calling something ‘a fraction of’ something.

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      A usb c to aux adapter is under $5 You can get usb c headphones for under $10

      The bigger problem as is really emphasized by this post is that people just don’t care how their actions are affecting others. If I am using Bluetooth headphones and the battery dies that means I don’t get to listen to music anymore, it doesn’t mean now everyone else has to listen to my music.

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        Not really the point, it costs, people need to buy it, not doing it is easier.

        My wired headphones (Sony MH410c) cost me three euros. But those were often included when buying a Sony phone. A decade ago you automatically had headphones when buying a phone.

        Still doesn’t make it alright, but it’s let’s accessible now and I can see that leading to a societal change.

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          The bar for not being a piece of shit shouldn’t be so low that the only way to stop people from blasting music/videos is to give them free headphones with every purchase…

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            The issue is not the free headphones that aren’t there, it’s that people think having no headphones is an excuse to create an acousting hellscape for everyone around them.

            We can only solve that issue by telling people all the time until they stop doing it. It seems the reason it’s happening more and more is just because many others wear headphones and stare at their phones and no longer observe their surroundings. Strange times.

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          There are many USB-C audio dongles with an integrated dac. You just happened to buy one without a dac, and is thus not supported by your phone

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        Pro tip. If you turn the volume down and hold it to your ear you can still listen to whatever without anyone else hearing. Like we used to be able to hear the other end of the line without others hearing in the old days when we used phones to phone people.

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          There are some old iPhones that you can get a lightning to aux adapter for also under $5 but besides that what phone doesn’t come with a usb C and doesn’t have an aux?

          The point really doesn’t change though, if you don’t have headphones that work then don’t listen to anything instead of disturbing others

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    We all hate these people.

    Its the same people driving dodge rams and not putting their cart away.

    And I dare say, I bet a lot of them are republicans.

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      From personal experience, this absolutely isn’t unique to a specific political side. Dodge Ram, sure. But being a complete asshat who doesn’t care about others is far more widespread then that.

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    There is a DIRECT correlation between this shit and removing the headphone jack.

    When you can get earphones for $2 at the local servo, it’s easy. When you’re looking at $300 earbuds or six week shipping for cheap chinese knockoffs, you just use the speaker

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      It’s a shame, because I would totally buy some cheap but good wired ones to keep in my bag and hand to people doing this shit if things still had the jack.

      Much more powerful than telling someone they’re being a dick.

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      Doubt.

      The people described didn’t give a shit then and don’t give a shit now. It’s not the unavailability of headphones causing people to suddenly be rude and self-centered.

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        There was a significant minority of people that only cared enough if it was easy for them to do so. It’s now harder, so there’s more people that gave up even trying.

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    It’s incredibly frustrating how many people can’t go a few minutes without obnoxiously loud sound. It’s even worse if you’re in an apartment or other close quarters because people assume playing something loud enough to hear on the opposite side of the building is their God-given right.

    I’ve been daydreaming about making a low-stimulus housing community lately, but I’m sure it has nothing to do with my sensory processing disorder not being compatible with existence in a modern world

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      Are you American? I ask because I’ve been told in a lot of other places it’s abnormal to have paper thin walls without sound insulation, where you can hear every fart a neighbor makes. I’ve only ever rented in paper-walled shitholes in the US, so I couldn’t say. Either way, it pisses me off even more that this is a solvable problem that landlords have simply chosen to not solve, because it’s cheaper and they don’t have to live with the literal health consequences of constant noise pollution.

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    Man, I use headphones around my own house when I’m listening to something while cooking or cleaning or something like that in a shared space.

    Like not if I’m watching the TV or gaming on the TV as I’m in the designated space to make some noise, so long as it’s not carrying across the house. If you don’t care to listen to my show or whatever, go to another room. Or if I’m home alone, I’ll play my music, video, podcast or whatever openly on my phone because it isn’t annoying anyone.

    But as soon as I’m just trying to do my own thing in a shared space with others around trying to do their own thing, even at home, I ALWAYS put headphones in out of respect. I don’t often get the same courtesy… but then, I can just drown out their bullshit with headphones if I want to, so not worth the argument. My wireless earbuds case is in my pocket at all times for this reason.

    I also always have headphones in while shopping. It’s a polite attempt to project “Fuck off” to everyone in line of sight. I’m not trying to have small talk with every stranger or acquaintance. I’m trying to do a chore while enjoying listening to Dungeons and Daddies or a YouTube/Dropout video or something. If we’re friends I’ll pause and pop out a bud. Otherwise, you’ll get a nod and a polite smile and you’ll be grateful for it. Now fuck off.

    Edit: I just realized that I may have given the impression that I’m a teenager living with parents and siblings or something. I’m not. I’m a 36 year old man in my own home with my wife, daughter and a house guest. And despite it being my house, I still give others this courtesy. Just to be clear.

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      I’m 38 with a wife, toddler, and no house guest.

      I’m still aware neither of those two want to listen to anything I want to listen to.

      But on that 1 hour of solitude every other Thursday afternoon, I’m in my underpants with every speaker in the house blasting space-operatic power metal to just below nighbours hearing threshold.

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      This. And tbh, I wear headphones when I’m alone most of the time anyways because they move with me without having to remember to pick up my phone/have a free hand, plus just better audio quality than shitty phone speakers anyways.

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    I’ve never had the balls but I always wanted to play my own music, turn it up max. Then point the speaker at them.

    Maybe, just maybe, they’d get the passive aggressive hint.

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      I have fantasized of doing exactly that but with the most annoying song I can think of. Something along the lines of Crazy Frog or Hampster Dance.

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    I don’t even make calls in public off of speakerphone. The fact that anyone has the balls to do this is astounding to me

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    Yesterday on the subway I really thought about going and standing next to the man playing videos on his phone, with my own phone playing some video at top volume positioned right next to his head. And then, when he looked up at me, looking back at him and saying, “Kind of irritating? Isn’t it?”

    Maybe I am cowardly because I decided not to. I thought about it for a while though.

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    I can’t think of a single item of media that would be so goddamn urgent I had to play it aloud in public, except maybe news announcements of things that will be in history books.

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    I love the dirtbags who hold their phone like a slice of pizza, then shout in the mic because the speakerphone is so loud it ducks the level all the time. It’s hard to use a phone worse if you tried.

    There’s no reality TV cameras, Phaleeshya. Use your phone like a phone.

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      When did that become a thing, and why?
      One morning, nobody knew how to use a phone any longer. What happened?

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        I honestly think this is because we gave up ergonomics in exchange for screen relestate. It’s not super comfortable to hold a smart phone to your ear and if you hold it wrong you can block the mics. Bit of a pain in the ass.

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        I often hold my phone like that, but not talking in public. I think it’s an unconscious “this works best” thing we’ve figured out.

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          At least on iPhones, when you’re using speakerphone, the mic used is at the top of the phone, right next to the ear piece so you can use the screen and talk into it at a natural angle. Pretty sure most Android phones are the same. Most people don’t know how many mics are on their phones and don’t know how they work at all.

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    I had an epihany recently.

    I saw some folks of mine mimic mannerisms I happened to see cable news.

    …I mean, it seems obvious, but if you turn on Fox News or a YouTube/Twitter feed, the average influencer acts like a enraged asshole. Each a unique asshole; it’s not even about politics or anything.


    I know the old person sentiment; yes, people have always been jerks.

    …But is this where people are losing social skills? Like, they watch this shit and think that’s normal public behavior, even if their many years of prior living doesn’t resemble that.

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      I think that’s definitely a contributing factor, along with reduced face to face social interactions in everyday life giving people less of a baseline to work off of.

      Back when I was in highschool and college (mid-00s to mid-10s) I could usually clock very quickly who had been a shut in nerd mostly watching shows, and sometimes even the specific shows they had watched, by their mannerisms.

      Decent amount of manic aggressive girls who learned from that horrible anime archetype (cat princess from Outlaw Star, derringer girl from Trigun, many tsundere characters). One guy I know was pretty much directly emulating Church from RvB. Another guy that was Spiderman and Goku. Usually my gut feelings checked out later when we’d talk about favorite shows and such.

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        Yeah.

        And I don’t mean to jump on the “TV rots your brain” type of train (which critics have been saying about fiction forever).

        But humans are literally programmed to emulate peers. And I think the line is especially blurry when those “peers” are presented as news hosts, ‘real world’ influencers, things that are seemingly real life content yet are total clickbait caricatures, and then that’s hyper personalized and constantly pinging you on a phone.

        Folks really into certain TV characters (for example) know they aren’t real on some level and get normalized in life. But that system breaks with the kind of content we have now.

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    I never understand how people can walk around with massive speakers, blasting music in public without being embarrassed.

    I’m always mortified if I accidentally play something before my earbuds connect.