• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    2 days ago

    For a while, long before Teslas were around, my wife went through a phase where she didn’t want a car with electronic door locks, “in case we crash into a retention pond.”

    So it came time for a new car, and while I’m talking with the sales people about price and such, all she wants to know is if she can get it without electronic locks. It seemed like she’d pay double if it didn’t have the e-locks.

    Finally I said, “I’ve never gone into a retention pond, and I don’t know anyone who has ever gone into a retention pond. It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn’t skipping electronic door locks, it’s STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS! Let’s try that solution first. if you go into a retention pond, then we’ll discuss getting rid of e-locks.”

    It’s been about 30 years, and I still don’t know anyone whose gone into a retention pond, including my wife. But she still mentions the lock thing whenever we get a new car.

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      It seems like the real solution to the retention pond problem isn’t skipping electronic door locks, it’s STAYING OUT OF RETENTION PONDS

      The premise of this logic is wholesale problematic.

      You can use the same logic and say:

      The real solution to seat belts is to just not wreck your car

      The real solution to stair rails is to just not fall down stairs

      The real solution to fire alarms is to just not light your building on fire

      …etc

      Same reasoning/logical framework applied to different problem areas.

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        2 days ago

        You’re right, electronic door locks and windows should be banned, because a handful of people couldn’t drive well enough to avoid going in a pond.

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          Ah, a good old strawman, when reasonable discussion just isn’t possible.

          I said none of that, but please go on.

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            2 days ago

            Dude, YOU are the one making a Federal case out of a 30 year old humorous personal marital anecdote. Check yourself, it was a fucking joke. I’ll bet you’re a blast at parties.

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              And you’re the one who is incapable of reasonable, calm, discussion and resorts to insults like a petulant child instead of conversation like a functional adult.

              Not a good look my dude.

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        2 days ago

        Out of 350 million people? I’ll take my chances.

        And I keep a window breaking tool in the door for just such an occasion.

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          Thats completely reasonable, but be aware that most cars made in the past decade have laminated side windows where a tool like that probably won’t work.

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      2 days ago

      Don’t tell your wife, but there are whole youtube channels on this. They go around searching for missing people in bodies of water. They find more missing people than I would’ve thought.

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      But electronic locks don’t stop you from opening the door. Or it shouldn’t I pull the handle door opens up.

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      Which is hilarious because:

      A. Virtually all electronic locks can also be operated manually.

      1. By the time you’re deep enough to prevent operating electronic locks, that door is not going to open, simply because of the pressure differential.
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      there are all sorts of people that have gone into retention ponds only once in there life.They didn’t come back out alive.