• Spacehooks@reddthat.com
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    25 days ago

    Never played a conquest game where you stop researchers from giving your empire a tech advantage over others.

  • Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works
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    25 days ago

    Hey Europe and Canada, anyone still looking for a scientist that just wants to do lab work? I prefer chemistry, but am happy with micro too. Just let me interpret data, please. I’m stuck somewhere where titrations are the most complex process.

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      This is something I think a lot of people don’t realize; It’s a cascading failure. It’s not just that some competent people will leave the country. The rest of their teams will have to bear the extra burden and be demoralized. They will then feel compelled to leave as well.

      It’s happened numerous times in both the public and private sectors. Now they’re deliberately trying to do this shit on a national scale. If we ever recover from this, it’s going to take decades…

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    Well, that happened to Germany back in the 1930s/40s. Before that, about 1/3 of Nobel Prizes went to German scientists.

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      25 days ago

      Of course a large percentage of those German scientists were Jewish, weren’t they?

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    25 days ago

    Welcome to Europe, researchers!

    Lots of great choices and don’t worry, you can move to France without knowing French or Denmark without knowing Danish!

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      wait you dont actually need to know French or Danish? How’s the local perception of English speaking foreigners, i.e. is it offensive to respond in English if the waiters/locals ask in French?

      Tbh the language barrier is 1 of the reasons holding me back. Havent tried for positions in France and Denmark yet, but for the ones I looked in Germany and Spain, you need to know German or Spanish. Even the job ads are in German/Spanish…

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        Spain is a better choice, but in Germany are more people speaking English, on the other hand pretty right wing. But in academic circles it becomes irrelevant.

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    25 days ago

    A healthy, broadly educated population, which feels safe and secure, are incompatible with, and toxic to, conservative and authoritarian ideologies.

    They need you to be sick, stupid, and scared.

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      Yes, many times. Historically, it seems like the very strong empires first defeated themselves and once they were sufficiently weakened for outside forces to be able to threaten them … they still kept being self sabotaged by their own elite who prioritized maneuvering against each other for temporary power/wealth grabs over working together to face the outside threats.

      The late Roman empire has a bunch of good examples: blatant corruption, over taxation of the poor, many assassinations, sabotaging their peers that were trying to improve the situation, constant civil war, the battle that destroyed the military backbone of the western Roman empire was fought between romans, … And all that while the empire was being torn apart by outside invasions.

      Or a more recent example: the polish Lithuanian commonwealth had a paralyzed government thanks to corrupt elites with veto powers in their parliament of nobles (sejm) and only once the nation was mostly destroyed and the nation on the cusp of final destruction, did the sejm introduce some sensible new laws, but it was too late.

      With smaller regional powers you can have cases like “they were in a golden age and had never been as powerful, but then the mongols appeared”, but with hegemon empires the failure of their inner workings is always going to be instrumental in their own demise.

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        But so deliberately? In what world does a half intelligent person believe this to be a good long term strategy?

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          Most of the US believes in this, or is just unaware. That’s how its been for most of history around the world.

          …The remarkable issue here is the elites/rules we handed the reigns now drink their own kool-aid. The very top of most authoritarian regimes are at least cognisant of some hypocrisy, even if ideology eats them some.

          The other is that people are more ‘connected’ than ever, but to disinformation streams. I feel like a lot of the world (especially the US fancies) themselves as super smart on shit they know nothing about because of something they saw on Facebook or YouTube.

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          It’s called a coup. The same thing our government orchestrated in other countries.

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    Or another way to look at it- cutting nearly 75% of scientists. Can’t have climate change if there’s no one working! Watch them find some money to give to ExxonMobile to ‘study’ the impacts of fossil fuels. Wonder what that report will say! /s

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    That’s only the half of it. Look at the rest of the policies, look how they want to cut Medicare and food stamps and other safety net programs.

    Make no mistake, this administration wants to see people die.

    This is the end game the technocrats have been working towards, this is how they’re enacting their eugenics. They want poor people, disabled people, disadvantaged people, to die. They believe they are culling the weak members of the herd for the sake of the betterment of “their” kind (rich, white, “healthy”, etc).

    These policies aren’t stupid or ineffective, they are cruel and insidious by design

    • MochiGoesMeow@lemmy.zip
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      The whole conspiracy theory of the new world order feels more real every year. Make everyone suffer so they have no choice but to submit to the oligarchs.

      People are already having trouble finding jobs. Cutting food stamps and Medicaid feels like pieces of making people suffer in a bigger plan.

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      I still don’t understand their end goal. If everyone exept for them is poor and dying who are they going to sell their stuff to? What will they exploit the people for if they can sell nothing because only they can afford it? Are they banking on becomming the new china and sell everything to the rest of the world? Wouldn’t killing half of your population bite that plan in the ass as a fuck ton of manpower is gone? And if they want to use machines as a replacement wouldn’t removing all the smart people be extremely unhelpful?

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        They goal is to get rich, they are mostly old, thinking I’m death in 10 years and fuck the next generations. If the country crashed, well then I can continue living in a Mansion in Dubai with an coctail in the hand. Plunder policy.

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        I still don’t understand their end goal. If everyone exept for them is poor and dying who are they going to sell their stuff to?

        I’m increasingly believing that they don’t actually care about anyone other then themselves.

        Their only goals are self-serving greed.

        And the methods they intend to use to serve that narrow goal are extremely short sighted and lacking any peripheral vision.

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      Canada has also been increasingly welcoming American expat academics and medical professionals.

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      We need to up our game on many many fronts. We need more investment and harder turn toward deomcratic socialism to fully reap what is being sown.

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      It absolutely won’t be.

      But it might be moving in the right direction.

      Regardless, will take decades/generations to fully recover from this, if ever.

      • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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        No, you’ll never recover. Your previous status was the result of a very specific set of historical circumstances (specifically the fact that you were the only major power left standing after World War 2) that aren’t going to repeat. If you fall, the best you can hope for in terms of recovery is to equal the other developed countries of the world. You’ll never exceed them again.