Trump is probably on the list, so he has to protect that. The Democrats had it during their entire presidency; even if they didn’t want turmoil during their time in office, they could have released it after their presidential defeat and before Trump took office.

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    Maybe the idea that Epstein was at the head of a global network of paedophiles, involved with trafficking young girls and boys for the likes of Trump, Clinton and Gates is fanciful.

    Impossible? No. Improbable? Yes.

    The idea that this is all some Mossad psi-op to influence US politics is also bonkers and predictably falls into classic anti-semitic tropes.

    Is it tittilating and fun to speculate about with people online? Sure. Does social and traditional media love a good juicy story like this and will continue to give it play and play? Absolutely.

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    What is “the list”? How do we know the government even has “the list”?

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    As non-American, the reason I think that Democrats didn’t release the list was that not only were some Democrats and their donors on it, they knew that they would be crucified by Republicans and Americans for it. The also knew that at the same time all the Republicans and their donors on the list would be let off because laws, morality, ethics are only ever to be used to oppress the poor and non-whites or to combat Democratic politicians. Do you think Trump would ever have made it to President as a Democrat? There is a reason he switched to become a Republican.

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    Because Democratic leadership is aware that Republicans aren’t their actual enemies, and a ton of them are also on the list.

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      The democrats are aware that their names are on the list and they’re the only ones that will be held accountable for it. The republicans will hold witch burnings while completely ignoring their own member’s names on the list.

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    The obvious is that Dems are on the list too. Which is undoubtedly true. Even more importantly than that donors. But the fact that Merrick Garland was involved and he’d never to anything to make Trump look bad ever should also be remembered.

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      Yup. Everybody’s just going to pretend nothing ever happened and move on.

      Just to be clear, that is not what should happen

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        Even if it comes to light, I have doubts anything will come of it. Look what happened with the Panama papers. Basically only Iceland did anything about it.

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      If someone hands you $50,000 a year with no questions every year, it’s hard to say no when they squeeze your hand and ask you to reconsider releasing it.

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        Especially if even if you released it it probably wouldn’t change literally a single thing.

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      And Bill Gates, probably. I have a feeling that was a reason for Melinda to split because she has never given a straightforward answer. It was just, “Oh, we’re splitting for reasons.”

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        She just gave an interview where she confirmed Epstein was a major reason for the divorce amongst other reasons. She said she met Epstein one time and had nightmares afterwards.

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        People just split for irreconcilable differences all the time, they don’t owe the public an explanation.

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          Except their split happened when it was revealed he was in contact with Epstein. And “differences” is vague enough that not many people care after. Keeping silent isn’t admitting “differences” with a spouse that you’ve been with for years.

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      Yeah, but that wouldn’t be news. Same as Trump and Prince Andrew being on it aren’t news. I’m guessing some really popular people are on there. People like Bernie Sanders (I’m NOT saying he’s on there but you get my gist).

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        You’re right, it’s not news so much as that the Clintons come from an era of politics where merely embarrassing things are still kept on the down-low. Especially considering the continued influence of 1990’s Clinton-era politicking on the Democratic party. Even Obama couldn’t really break that hold, as seen by Hillary being given the Secretary of State position during Obama’s tenure and then running and losing after Obama. There was actually a lot of evidence at the time that the DNC was basically broke and was living off of the generosity of the Clinton foundation. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, chair of the DNC from 2011 to 2016, was literally in Hillary Clinton’s pocket. While Bill Clinton himself is not particularly important as a figure these days, the family influence continues to extend deep into nearly every facet of the Democratic party, and as such, Democrats are unlikely to bite the hands that feed them so to speak.

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    Its rumored that Epstein was working with Israeli Intelligence so they probably have big files on many prominent Democrats and Republicans which is why everybody talks a big game about releasing the client list (if it exists) but never follows through. Its stuff like this that exposes the real game that both these parties are working together against the American people. The party always comes first.

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      Pretty sure he was an asset and Ghislaine is the agent. Both based in who’s alive, and whose father’s funeral was attended by multiple former heads of Mossad.

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        This is the part that should be brought up always. MOSSAD ATTENDED STATE FUNERAL

        it’s all a game. They use the vulnerable as currency and bargaining chips. Literal evil.

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    because includes alot of politicians, donors, and other world leaders, movie executives. just like the panama papers got swept under the carpet, it including tons of rich people.

    Gates, musk, trump, hawkings, diddy,etc.