• TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works
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    I hope this cripples the companies that backed MAGA. Unfortunately, it’ll put small businesses out completely though.

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      It’s a shakedown.Put a couple million in the “Trump Presidential Library” and you get the workers your business needs.

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      usually its tech that will likely have to choose between offshoring thier employees or hire domestically. they will choose the former rather than latter, because its cheaper.

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    And will corporations learn that Republicans are as bad for business as they are for civil rights, human rights, natural rights, and any other kind of right?

    No. They will not. Because a handful of multibillionaires own and control all the corporations.

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    This doesn’t just affect corporations, it will also severely impact universities who hire professors and lecturers from all over the world on this type of visa. Schools are not going to be able to afford this, further eroding the quality of higher education in the US.

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      Aren’t US universities paying millions of dollars for their football coaches and stadiums? They can afford it, of course doesn’t mean they will.

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        There are donors who donate to the sports teams and donors who donate to the academic side etc it’s different money the institutions have to keep separate

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        Mine sure isn’t. We were having funding problems before the pandemic.

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          so did ours state university system in the west coast, apparently they had been suffering from enrollment issue for years(covid just made it worst because people dint learn anything by being only on online classes, plus almost no job prospects after graduations), last i read on latest news is they are enticing HS to enroll early, if they complete certain requirements(so guaranteed seats in the state uni), its a bandaid. Cant say the same for the University or UC system(which i heard is not affected for the moment.

          and pre-pandemic , people were already not happy with how little they got out of thier university(wet lab experience, x experience)

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        It’s not as simple as that. Where money comes from and goes to are complicated enough, but paying $100k sponsorship, per year, per person hired from abroad would be just like adding that sum to their payroll, and that would monkey wrench the gears spectacularly.

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      Not just universities. There are a couple of K-8 language immersion schools in my city that are likely not to survive this.

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    So after the Hyundai-LG plant raid he tweeted it was a mistake and that he needed skilled engineers for company’s building in the US. That they’re very important.

    Then announces that those same engineers will need to pay 100k to get in.

    Slow-clap for his brilliance.

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      He’s a Russian asset with dementia, shepherded by a mentally ill, psychopathic, Christian Taliban.

      This is the best they can do. Either way, Ji and Putin win.

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        Here we go again with the russian asset stuff. He’s his own asset. He doesn’t know what he’s doing, he’s inept. To think that there’s some master plan he’s trying to get at is foolish. He’s the heritage foundation’s asset if anything.

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      Trump isn’t making these calls play-by-play. He set ICE loose with a quota. Shit happens. “Not like that!” His handlers are scrambling to contain the nonsense. Don’t expect it to make sense.

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      I think you’re slightly misstating things. Those engineers will not pay 100K, it makes no sense at all. A potential employer could pay, but there’s no chance an employee would.

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    This is all about the grift. It is just another way to force businesses to come groveling to this administration. More corruption and bribes will ensue with exceptions for those who play ball.

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      The more you say it, the more likely it is to stop being true.

      Which is more important–him being taco, or you reassuring yourself?

      Edit: you reassuring yourself. Got it. Agreed–fuck material reality anyway.

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    These visas are used to depress wages. They pay these guest workers less, and can get them deported at the drop of a hat. This might not be that bad of a thing.

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      I was going to say this too; a rare one of Trump’s policies that seems workable.

      There’s supposed to be a rule where H1B permits first require the company to exhaust national hires; but they do this by simply inventing qualifications no one can fill. I don’t know how you can fix that part, but a price tag is good friction.

      Still, this leads to trouble for the industries where we really don’t have any local talent. I want to say the federal government could approve exemptions ad hoc, but I doubt anyone would trust them to control that.

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      Layoffs are happening. Job numbers were overstated by 911,000. Let’s fix the job market by removing 85,000 workers.

      Employers seem to hate wage labor. I look forward to a future where workers keep work done.

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      It’s a bad thing for america, good for all the countries that have experienced significant poaching of talent by the US, IMO.

      How many geniuses from the global south get imported into the US for better wages

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        I think that you and /u/hector@lemmy.today are both right. The effect depends on the quality of talent that gets imported.

        Importing top talent gives the US a competitive edge. Importing average people floods the labor market, depressing wages. This increases social division, adding to the profits of the capitalist class, but reducing the purchasing power of the median household.

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        How does workers getting paid less become good for the us?

        It does not, good for billionaires and america have scant overlap on them. There is nothing good for the us in depressing wages while bosses male record profits.

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            It is absolutely not good for the countries they’re from, the talent that could start their own business comes over here, both depressing our wages and preventing homegrown companies from competing.

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    I actually had this idea myself, with the idea being that corporations should basically pay a tax for H1B if they are going to keep hiring H1B over domestic workers. However, my idea was tied to hours worked, so they can’t exploit them with unfair workloads.

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      if they restrict h1b visas, nothing stopping them from solely hiring Indians in INDIA without having them move to the US, so no visa needed, thereby circumventing the visas. they probably will hire domestically, mostly senior or “x amount experience” so they can keep things from falling apart or training the overseas team.

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        Tax the offshore engineering and R&D, too. My company plays both these cards with a China office to hire local, cheaper talent plus manufacturing is local so they help domestically on their side. Thats a win. Then they hire tons of Indian H1B for engineering in America.

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          That’s way harder to track. Immigration and visas already have processes in place and people watching. It’s very easy to track where money is going.

          when you’re paying for offshore engineering, it’s just some money moving around.

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      Could be fewer jobs when companies find it more efficient to relocate teams outside of the US.

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        If the team inside was non-citizens, and they team outside is non-citizens, there is no change.

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          The last time Trump messed with these visas my company moved a bunch of engineers to Canada. The change for the US is those engineers are no longer paying taxes in the US. The change for Canada is they are paying taxes in Canada. I call that a win.

          I’m. Canadian.

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          Then there is a change, because non-citizens and citizens are not usually segregated at work places

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            That isn’t what I’m saying. They won’t be in separate rooms, lol.

            There is no impact to US citizen income if none of those people paid are US citizens, so it doesn’t matter if those non-citizens do the job on US soil or off of it.

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              Of course it does. If they do it here they pay taxes here. They spend money on their local economy, etc. If a large portion of the team gets offshored then it may not make sense to keep the rest of the team working different hours because it’s inefficient so the whole team now gets offshored so the American workers get laid off.

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                  Just showing your preconceptions. I was born and have lived my entire life in the US. I have however worked with a lot of H1B holders and have seen teams offshored because it was cheaper or allowed better coverage.

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      What’ll happen is the entire offices get moved overseas instead.

      With the Department of Education getting cut more and more, funds cut to higher education when we should be making it free for everyone…

      The few jobs Americans will be qualified for in the future, primarily services like:

      • Janitorial
      • Plumbing (TVC)
      • Receptionist (TVC)
      • In house Barista

      Those will disappear as well. Only jobs left for red meat 'Mericans will be picking fields on farms, you know, the ones ICE has been making available.

      So, don’t worry! Dear Leader is making the Merican jobs available for ya’ll while making sure not to over educate anybody and doing more to ensure those woke office intellectual jobs don’t come to our golden shores.

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              Pretty much all of it. And my beliefs are firm, so…

              So

              • doge cutting department of education is fine.
              • Going a half million in debt for a degree that gets you a 60k starting salary nursing job is normal.

              Got it.

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                  Oh, I’m just exploring the depths of your cuntbaggery. It’s quite interesting, I’d love to hear the rationale behind these beliefs but I fear it’s as shallow as they are themselves.