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Cake day: June 8th, 2023

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  • The water thing is not overblown if you consider that data centers will only use potable water and will not be able to use treated water. Per just one of many studies:

    Large data centers can consume up to 5 million gallons per day, equivalent to the water use of a town populated by 10,000 to 50,000 people.

    With climate change and the exacerbation of droughts around the world, this puts any source of fresh surface or groundwater at risk of drying up.

    Only 3% of Earth’s water is freshwater, and only 0.5% of all water is accessible and safe for human consumption.

    This is a growing environmental justice issue (and data centers encourage further energy poverty that I haven’t even addressed, much less the increasing ratio of usage for industry vs residential), and to ignore that we as humans cannot replenish or increase freshwater supplies with any meaningful scale to support life, this becomes a dire issue.

    I for one would much rather have water and affordable energy for communities.




  • In my humble opinion, I will add that had these “edgy” bs comments that “kids” say, as Vance defended, been uttered by a person of color or another marginalized group, there would be the absolute hardest-line response. They would bring the hammer down on these ‘r@dical d0mestic terr0rists’, and they wouldn’t stop until their whole network of family and friends felt pain for this misstep, leaving them as an infamous example. Do we see that happening in this case? Will we see similar consequences? This double standard tires me to no end, and it’s seemingly always okay when the “good ol’ boys (and girls’) club” conveniently step out of the spotlight and into comfortable silence. I find this injustice unacceptable.




  • I appreciate both of your perspectives. I’m going to hold out hope still that what is being done mobilizes people that wouldn’t normally, and allow for the development of solid goals that protect the most amount of vulnerable communities to carry this movement with longevity. The most I will expect is that we attempt to show each other and ourselves more kindness and grace through this process. Tearing down the walls we’ve built between us is a goal I’ll vote for. We’re more similar than we are different.











  • Agreed, but with a caveat - there are a lot of wealthy NYers that would vote for the status quo, but there are far more willing to put a progressive candidate forward in the city. It feels like Adams flew under the radar as being a sellout and didn’t show his true colors until after he was elected (afaik). For NYC to be anything but blue at this point in time would go against an overwhelming majority that actually have the will to prevent a major flip like that, so that seems insanely unlikely.