The the equivalent of people making jokes about Chinese food being made from street cats. Meanwhile we have actual videos of Isn’treal and USA soldiers laughing as they throw kittens off a cliff.

At this point I feels like it’s all part of one big “everything bubble.” The whole damn western economy is one big ass bubble. It’s just not a big, uniform bubble, but like a lumpy bubble formed by all the bubbles mushing together. And right now, AI is one of the more prominent ones.

And yeah, none of it will be allowed to pop unless something utterly extreme happens. Wall Street has spent decades changing the rules. They also pretty much have all the money now. Unlike in the past when the workers could actually do bank runs or all pull out of a stock. Now though, the working class doesn’t have a pot to piss in. Wall Street has all the money.

Then they use assets from debt that you can’t file bankruptcy on (like Student dept). Things got dicey with all the remote work crashing the corporate real estate markets so they had the government start attacking businesses and forcing return to office shit. They control it all at this point. If Wall Street said the bubble will pop unless we start grinding children into paste, the government would be knocking on every door. Police would be stomping children in the streets. Hell some people would willingly drag their kicking and screaming children to the grinder for the glorious economy.

“Capitalism is when buy and sell things.” Is literally how liberals think. That’s like, the first thing a budding leftist realizes is bullshit when they start to learn about socialism. How does someone with this ideal make it as far as Lemmygrad without understanding that? This shit reads like a fed post.

I was going to make a short little quip and agree about a few things, but like a good communist, I started really analyzing the shit out of my own thoughts and feelings about “influencers” and internet discourse. And then typed it out as I thought about it. Lol. Just a warning I get a little long winded and rambly.

I dream of a day when China just starts capturing all the Starlink space junk and launching it into the atmosphere to free up orbital space.
They will clean up the earth, and the space around it.

“expecting to be completed by 2025.” So finished the same year it started? Pretty baller. Hope they end up donating more. If they can all but eliminate the need for fossilen fuels that’s going to save them so much.

I have nothing useful to contribute but the blurry thumbnail for the post makes these people look like they are in star fleet uniforms.

Honestly that was a half finished statement I forgot to finish cause I got interrupted while typing this out. And then came back and forgot it was in there when I added the last paragraph. lol. What I meant to say was something a long the lines of “People say half the younger generation has a favorable view of socialism. But that’s 50% of like 20% of the population. Further more, many of those people are the kinds that think “The Nordic Model” is socialism or are the kind of people that go “well, I support a socialist approach but communism is evil” and such things.”

So, glad you mentioned that. Cause I never would have noticed that super out of place seeming statement. lol

I really wish they had seized it all. If Billionaires want to go cry and scream that big bad CPC is taking all their monies, while they are literally still billionaires, then the CPC should make it a reality, and just take it all. Fuck these rich crybabies. Time for them to learn was hard work actually is.

You see, it’s because, China bad.

Do I still try to convince people and teach people? Yes

Do I have hope it will gain enough traction to prevent the oligarchy from killing us all? Not really. Conservatives fantasize openly about killing us, and liberals fantasize about the conservatives killing us. Anarchist and “anti-fascist” groups actively fight against us and help the fascists. People say half the younger generation has a favorable view of socialism.

So yeah, won’t stop trying but I really have no hope for it. America’s weapons may be aging and falling behind. China may be able to achieve a level where American weapons are of little threat, but those aging weapons will be plenty capable of killing civilians. The empire turning inwards, fast. Meanwhile even in left spaces we spend more time making it a purity contest then trying to just get people started on the basics.

Edit: there’s a half finished thought in here I finished in response to the comment below.

Literally all I was asking was if these studies accounted for how the growth and perception of these groups are impacted by those in power. Your neighbors aren’t going to rat you out to the gestapo… If there isn’t a gestapo.

My point being, I don’t think we can look at these groups as standalone percentages without taking into account the support they have from the oligarchy/bourgeois/whatever you want to call “the ones with all the power,” and from their portrayals in the media. Cause a small group with support from the powerful, will be far more dangerous and impactful to society, than the same size group without that support.

You mention you aren’t concerned with those in power, but you admit it’s those in power creating the environment to allow these groups to exist and grow. Which, imo, would seem that we do need to account for them and how their influence exacerbates the danger these groups pose. And I was simply wondering if that was a factor in this whole report/study. I was not downplaying the dangers of the groups, or shifting blame from them.

And I don’t think your shit attitude was warranted. Starting a comment with “don’t mean to offend” then saying something clearly meant to insult? You could have gotten your comment across perfectly well without that attitude. I was not attacking anything you said, but you clearly felt the need to attack me.

Honestly the fact it’s being allowed to be published in the media means this probably isn’t a big deal or they are making up a attack to use to like, justify more money for security or some further crack down on online anonymity. Or something else of that nature.

Does the study in any way take into account who actually rules and guides society. It doesn’t matter if the Christofascists are small minority, they will be defended and supported by the people in control. Which will make the groups seems larger and amplify their message.

Because American propaganda has become
“cool and manly in any way = right wing”
It’s why they like to latch on to punk bands, other “fuck the authorities” type things, and anything else their brains perceived as “manly.” Fight club has the word fight in it and it sounds cool and manly. Most Americans are too fucking stupid to read a book or interpreter any part of movie that’s now an action scene or explosion. Talk to any liberal that has never read the book and they will probably say it’s savage right wing shit because “fighting” is bad.

It’s why you see fascists showing up to punk concerts and not understanding why they are getting kicked out for doing the Nazi salute or wearing some fascist clothing.

Elon needed that money for the car flood tunnel of death.

What do we mean by “depopulate”? I think I read an estimate (from a non-western backed source) that proposed China’s population dropping to the 700-800 million mark over many decades. Which shifts like that are often associated with many countries that have seen a drastic rise is quality of life, medical care, birth control, etc. It just happens more. People want/need fewer kids. They have more to do. Etc.

But this was projected over a looooning time. It’s not like the country’s gonna loose 30% of it’s population in a few generations.

I really don’t see it as people NOT fearing death, and more of a “their fear of death is not a greater force than whatever they are willing to die for.”
Whether it’s a cause they will die for, or their own despair that causes them to take their own life.
I truly believe everyone, at some level, is afraid to die. You may put on a brave face and say stuff like “I don’t fear death but I also don’t want to die,” like half the thread, but I mean, come on. Just say it. You all are probably afraid to die at some level, you just accepted it and also have things you care about more than that fear. Even people who are religious, and see death as a release to whatever afterlife, and claim to embrace death. Is it really no fear of death? Or are their convictions to their religion just so much stronger it overrides it?

Like, fear is good. It keeps you on edge. It keeps you alive. You can’t “be brave” if you aren’t afraid. Because being brave, or in the case of religion, having faith, pretty much requires there to be fear or uncertainty that you are fighting, pushing aside, whatever.
Aren’t their lots of various sayings based around things like “If you don’t fear death, you aren’t being brave, you’re being dumb.”?

The trick is to not let it rule you. I’m afraid of getting mutilated in a car accident. It doesn’t prevent me from driving, and I’m not thinking about it every time I drive, but is someone swerves in the direction of my car, my adrenaline is gonna spike and I’ma react in an attempt to not be in an accident. And I do that because I am afraid of the outcome. I am afraid of being injured, or even dieing. But I don’t sit around and dwell on it.

That’s just how I see it.

I like how feds come in here with their lib upvotes bots thinking they will achieve some overall negative impact upon the community with type of shit, but all it does is act as a massive info dump for all sorts of source material for arguing better against this lib brained bullshit in the future. They may think “well I’m making them waste all this time and effort responding to the troll post.” Like we all aren’t sitting around wasting our time online anyway but now we have an actual point to focus on. Like the majority of us aren’t just sitting here waiting for this exact scenario to infor dump our collective communist autism onto whatever poor soul dares to say something like this in our community.

And their last interaction with this site prior to this post was a single post made a year ago, and a single comment made two years ago. Now comes in parroting a bunch of lib talking points about Ukraine. Nothing suspicious about that. /S