The data is coming from the world’s largest democracy perception study, published by the Alliance of Democracies Foundation (a Danish-based non-profit organisation).
Damn evil CCP brainwashing their people to think that democracy is important /s
This should be improved with adding more countries, like Russia, then comparing with other important data, like freedom of expression, to be somehow relevant to any discussion
Freedom of expression only matters when it translates into real-world action. Otherwise, it’s just a jester’s privilege, the freedom to scream into the void. In China, people enjoy genuine freedom to advance their material interests, reflected in their consistently rising standard of living and an economy that serves the majority. Meanwhile, the West claims abstract ‘freedoms’ while living standards crumble and working people are stripped of political power.
In my country I could live without working and still be in pretty good health conditions after years, if I would like to.
Is that possible in China?
Because my country is the average “western” country and I consider it still pretty far from a democratic utopia.
The average “western” country depends on the spoils of Imperialism to subsidize costs, ie social safety nets and lower prices of commodities through expropriating vast amounts of wealth from the Global South. China doesn’t do that, its own development and safety nets come from their own labor and production. Very different circumstances.
The average “western” country depends on the spoils of Imperialism
Hm… Yes, the famous Polish Colonies spanning half the India, some of Africa and Kamchatka.
China doesn’t do that
China for the past 20 years has been mining Africa like crazy. I don’t see that wealth staying with African people, but moving to China and giving it monetary and political power.
Poland isn’t the “average Western country,” but it does depend on the same system of super exploitation of the Global South.
China is not imperializing Africa. China needs a lot of raw materials found in African countries, but it doesn’t keep African countries dependent on China nor does China enforce economic control on African countries. Both sides benefit. See here, China does not meet the definition of Imperialism.
I’m from Poland.
The source you quoted says that USSR wasn’t imperialistic.
Polish economy during occupation by USSR was drained, we were forced to send goods to the Mother Russia like crazy, without compensation. We had local shortages, so that Moska could benefit. If that’s not imperialistic exploitation to you, we have nothing to talk about, because you’re crazy.
The USSR was not Imperialist, see again:
USSR did not practice imperialism in the Leninist sense — it did not export capital and was not under control of a financial oligarchy.
Users like @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml can offer more insight on Poland as it related to the USSR, but to claim that the USSR was Imperialist is wrong. Calling me “crazy” for having consistency is just a way to avoid the original subject, which was your claim that the PRC is Imperializing Africa, which is also wrong. Now that you were caught out, you pivot to another direction hoping you can coast by on being Polish, when I’ve spoken to other Polish users and done study on my own that leads me to disagree with you.
Assuming this is a reasonable representation of public opinion in the two countries (and I don’t yet have reason to assume otherwise, despite the neoliberal position of the founders of the institute commissioning the survey), I now think it would be interesting to see a breakdown, country by country, of the discrepancy between public perception of democracy and independent observers’ ratings of democracy in those same countries.
The perception of democracy by a country’s own people is likely the strongest indicator of its health. After all, what could be more relevant than the lived experience of the populace? If people don’t feel that their government serves them, then external ratings showing otherwise, however meticulously compiled, miss the core reality of the situation.
Furthermore, coming up with a truly comprehensive and universally agreed-upon rating system for democracy is itself a non-trivial challenge. Would such a rating heavily weigh material conditions, levels of inequality, access to public services, or more abstract freedoms like speech and assembly? And crucially, who decides which of these aspects are the most important or hold the greatest weight in determining a nation’s democratic standing?
this is giving off
vibesThat’s literally UK
At least you’re honest about your politics being vibes based
accurate description of how surveys are conducted in fascist states like the US, UK, and France
lol, why did you throw in France specifically?
since it was part of the survey
