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    I would be curious how much these missiles are marked up.

    It can’t actually cost like $14.9 million in materials and production costs and then $100k profit for the company can it?

    I wonder if it’s like $5million production cost and then $10million profit

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      I’m pretty sure these are one of those “it costs $1 million to manufacture and then 14 million to guarantee they work and everything is documented.” things.

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    All of this spending to: Check notes Kill children from countries you never knew existed, in military operations that are completely illegal.

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        A beatdown to the American economy sounds like a good strategy. Iran is proving that you can topple down a giant like the Us just by targeting key sectors

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      So is drying your laundry outside.

      There are different degrees of being illegal. There is a difference between going across a street and going to do a murder.

      Also there hasn’t been an established pattern of the us targeting schools, hospitals and childcare facilities. Missiles are shit, inaccurate weapons and tend to strike somewhere close to their targets. Collateral damage is usually not considered to be a war crime.

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        Man it is hilarious how every time you call out genocidal maniacs there is always one of them getting their feelings hurt. cowards and butchers are incredibly touchy! We always need to remember that nazi defenders are also nazis themselves.

        Your propaganda is worthless. The American And Israeli government make it very clear that they are sending whole countries back to the stone age, and the genocidal intent is clear with their actions. Nazis are doing nazi shit. SO i believe the next step will be to designate the Israel and American military as terrorist organizations.

        Well suited for every worthless coward serving the american military and IDF to be known as terrorists.

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          SO i believe the next step will be to designate the Israel and American military as terrorist organizations.

          I’m not a political scientist or anything, but I think you should probably stop doing business with the USA, stop using US weapon systems, stop accepting US loans, and stop using the US dollar for international trade before declaring them terrorists.

          After all, you’re doing business with Nazis, so until you do this you are also Nazis.

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            I really like this attitude! A lot of people from where i live are already boycotting American products and services, we can take it a step forward and move towards de coupling economically from the united states. A lot of important manufacturing is comes from east Asia already, the future of energy is solar, Europe is going to great lengths to decouple technologically and establishing regulations for big tech. And American products have been gradually enshittifying for decades, american products are more expensive, their quality has been driven down by lack of regulation and american companies have been become stauchnly anti consumer, even their movies and tv suck these days!

            So your idea is awesome: Not doing business with nazis would be great for the world, and the americans are already isolating themselves with their abusive militaristic attitude! It would be great to live in a world where we are not tied to american trade agreements and they cannot enforce economic terrorism on whoever they want and where everything is not tied down to the dollar! The best part is the current administration is dumb enough to make this happen in our lifetimes. So that’s the attitude! Fuck the american nazis!

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          Yeah, but the killing of children to inflicting suffering isn’t the primary goal as far as can be told for the us military.

          It is the goal for other militaries in the world.

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            Oh! You have a point there; Killing children and inflicting pain and genocide across the world has a very specific goal: To protect the pedophiles in the Epstein coalition and to further the imperialist goals of the handful of corporations that are really running america! Basically all the coward and terrorists in the american and israeli military are killing and dying for a handful of pedophile nazi pigs that do their best to oppress the american people. This whole ordeal would be funny if it wasn’t so openly brutal and disgusting!

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            Were that the case, why not change tactics and try literally anything else, at all, other than repeatedly bombing children to inflict suffering? If that’s not our goal then what is?

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        “Missiles are shit, innacurate weapons”

        I would invite you to watch this video discussing the technology beyond one of the US’s old ICBMs. It could accurately strike from across the world, with no external reference, after being held in a silo for a long time. Obviously these aren’t the same missiles being used here, but it’s a good demonstration of the level of technology that the US defense industry can create.

        I don’t think it’s fair to say that we can’t build an accurate missile.

        Also, there have been reports of multiple strikes on the same location (to kill first responders responding to the first strike) - If this was down to random chance, the odds of hitting the same “incorrect” target twice are extremely slim.

        I think it’s pretty clear that the US has extremely capable weapons technology, and that this is entirely intentional.

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        It’s illegal to dry laundry outside?

        It might violate an apartment rental agreement or an HOA policy, but illegal? Where is this illegal? Maybe in some densely populated cities?

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    Well, it’s full of toxic fuels.

    The money is actually going to defense contractors, an obscene percentage of which goes to like one guy who probably hunts poor people for fun on the weekends.

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      The money is actually going to

      It’s not about who receives the money, it’s about where that money would have went if it wasn’t put in the missile.

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        With respect, it’s also about who receives the money.

        RTX makes the Tomahawk.

        In 2016, the stock was at 59. Now it’s at almost 200. A return of 338%. That’s about the same rate of return as the S&P 500 in the same timeframe. The difference being, the worst performing stocks in the S&P are regularly swapped out.

        So, yeah, these guys are pretty much a sure bet to make money.

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      When you’re a billionaire, pretty much everyone else is a poor people… and, as an added bonus, you get to use Tomahawk missiles to hunt them.

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    Funding at the federal level is never an either/or choice, it’s an active, explicit declaration of what the administration wants.

    Perpetuating this specious framing provides cover for malignant sociopaths.

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    It’s a myth that the US could fund it’s healthcare if it didn’t fund the military. This is because we already spend more on healthcare than the military already. By a lot.

    Medicare alone has a similar budget to the entire Pentagon!

    We’re not too cheep for healthcare, we’re getting ripped off!

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      most of its being subsidized by govt, via insurance companies its just that people never benefit from thsoe taxes paid, via through medical procedures, hospitals, medication that are from private corporations. besides they have low cost health insurance for service members, which is universal(tricare),

      medicaid/care is the govt already negotatited prices(which should be the norm) that keeps cost low. besides other countries also have private healthcare if the public version is too slow. you can have both.

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      We spend more on health care per person and have worse outcomes than any country in the global north.

      That has a lot to do with privatizing all our medical facilities and wasting a ton of money through private insurance.

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    You can’t deny it, but the tomahawks are kind of made for schools in distant countries.

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      They were made for fighting Russia like most of the major weapon systems, but haven’t had any opportunity to do so.

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      There is a big difference between expanding our knowledge and understanding of the universe around us and blowing up school children.

      The Artemis project has cost about $93 billion over 15 years. That’s about 5 weeks worth of spending in Iran.

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        Yeah, let me know how that joyride expanded your knowledge and understanding about the universe around you.

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        Only “Science” being done with that joy ride, is how to distract the public from the current events.