In short
I got a reply from a prolific anti-vegan troll and referred them back to an earlier conversation we had. Got banned for “harassment” and “following someone around” when in fact they replied to me and keep following vegans around when they post against anti-vegan propaganda.
The 14-day ban and comment removals by @aeronmelon@lemmy.world: https://lem.lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog/45638?page=1&actionType=All&modId=6106918&userId=18352111
And the posts in question:
The comments when I posted them rendered as
Oh hey its you
The link is to a discussion which expanded is this here (The link goes to the comment with the highlighted star):
With background
The person in question is a very dedicated anti-vegan troll who is known to make non-sequitur claims as replies to vegans, in the hopes of roping then into a defensive position under the guise of “debate”.
To exemplify this I engaged with them a couple months ago and got a perfect showcase of their behaviour. I had never used this and have never replied to them since then (at least I don’t remember that I have and searching didn’t turn anything up). But then when they replied to me yesterday I did. And got promptly banned for “harassment” and “following someone around”. I messaged the mod who banned me to no reply.
Their behaviour is being enabled by lemmy.world mods like @aeronmelon@lemmy.world who will readily delete comments made by vegans should they dare step a foot outside of the norms of “civilized debate”, like e.g. in the same thread (1) and (2). The petulant and incessant trolling by them is of course never subject to such moderation actions.
To any vegan comrades, do not engage this troll, you risk getting banned and your comments deleted.
Apparently I used wrong account to post this. Will have to switch accounts to my blahaj account on occasion to reply to comments, apologies.
Then call for the destruction of Israel somewhere else than Feddit. We don’t want to get into legal trouble with Austrian authorities just because you felt like calling for something that is legally understood as a call for genocide in Germany, Austria and Switzerland and therefore qualifies as hatespeech (legally speaking).
Removed by mod
I have been. Your instance is still full of zionist apologia, repeating hasbara like the “7 Oct mass rape” allegations etc. I don’t think there are a lot of fedditors who genuinely believe that the destruction of Israel is a necessity. And they never will because talk about it is forbidden. Thus perpetuating zionism.
Also, don’t preemptively comply with cops, if they want to shut you down they will find a way even if they have to make something up. Why, if I post “Death to Israhell” right now is not visible from feddit.org? Is it not even hosted on your server? Is the image below not visible from feddit.org ? And if I post it somewhere that federates with feddit.org and it gets enough upvotes, wouldn’t it even be on the front page? Maybe it even get’s cached on your server? Big trouble if I were a fed.
And on language like “Genocidesmany” and “Pissrahell” it’s important to kill all those little voices that got trained to uphold nations as sanctimonous. Of worthy of respect, or whatever else. Kill the bourgeois propaganda inside you, drown it until no bubbles appear. People talk about revolutions but then suddenly panic when people are being too rude to the imperialists and their propagandists. We’re not gonna globalize the intifada in a civil way. The bourgeoisie won’t let us.
There’s no point in trying to get through to them, they are a Zionist through and through. The best thing to do is educate others on that so they won’t feel morally or authoritatively compelled to obey the shit Zionist Fedditors tell them to do. For example, if Feddit says they are antisemitic or an antisemite for being against the genocide of palestinians, instead of complying and apologizing the best thing is to say that Feddit is full of shit and are also Zionist apologists.
I am against the genocide of Palestinians and recognize that it must be stopped. The difference is just that I am not revanchist and don’t glorify the murder of civilians regardless if they are Palestinian or Israeli.
No one does, this is a made up boogeyman.
I have had to ban plenty of people who celebrated the Oct 7 massacres and then people then call me Zionist all the time because I wont let them glorify murder. It doesn’t matter who does the murdering whether Hamas or IDF, it is still wrong.
Got it, so you’re a lib who values civility but doesn’t value speaking out against actual Zionism and Israel’s occupation of Palestine, because your Zionist sympathizing government says it’s wrong.
@mathemachristian@lemmy.ml Don’t respond to this person anymore. When a person says they aren’t a Zionist because they don’t support genocide in Palestine but they suppress other acts of anti-Zionism and they support Israel existing and occupying Land that didn’t belong to them, that’s both a strawman argument, and a false dilemma, because it is absolutely Zionist apologia to uphold those values. Liberal Zionism where people say murder and genocide is wrong while still supporting occupation is still Zionism. No ifs, ands, or buts.
I agree, but I want to make sure that this side is heard whenever germans use these civility arguments to uphold the vegeterians peace. Violence out of sight is out of mind and people shouldn’t disturb the peace by pointing it out. I have to live in this cursed country I am deeply familiar with the rhetoric.
FCK HMS stickers everywhere, but not FCK IOF etc. Because while protesting genocide you must observ decorum and cannot call the genociding “country” or the countries helping them mean names like pissrael or genocidesmany.
I am going to be honest here, without looking into it I am 90% sure these will be misunderstandings or zionists sockpuppets. I would think it impossible that someone coherently antizionist on feddit is going to be “rah rah mow them all down”. That’s not even true about hamas.
So since it is inconvenient for your side, you are going to deny that these people are genuine?
Also like I said to DraconicNEO, we should disengage because we’ve gone pretty off topic. You can make a dedicated thread elsewhere to discuss meta.
No, like I said, I believe so because it is silly to think that there are germans more vicious towards iSSraelis than the al qassem brigades.
A lot of these massacres, particularly the one at the nova music festival are falsely attributed to the al qassem brigades or made up. We know from hostage testimony how members of the resistance (hamas or otherwise) actually treated them. Hamas was extremely concious of PR and had a whole media campaign running in parallel to the operation.
I mean it’s impossible to prove intent of a poster, so it’s always guesswork, but I’m gonna doubt there is a fedditor with a history of varied interests suddenly posting about the murder of every man, woman and child in the illegaly occupied areas.