• muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    Trump is literally dying in front of us. Once the cult leader falls, there absolutly will be a reckoning. His base is tied to him specifically, not the party.

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      2 months ago

      Wishful thinking. Go watch the videos of bush administration lackeys defending the Iraq war or Abu Graib. They were reelected shortly after all that came out. The conservative and evangelical coalition has always been there and is well beyond trump.

      Dems are 100% capable of losing the next election

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        2 months ago

        Trump has outright defied everything the evangelicals stood for. They now only stand for Trump. When he’s gone, they won’t be able to revert and what’s left of the GOP can’t sustain itself as Trump is embedded in everything they do now.

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          Trump has outright defied everything the evangelicals stood for. They now only stand for Trump. When he’s gone, they won’t be able to revert

          This is a baffling bit of logic to me.

          If they were able to change so quickly, why do you think they will suddenly leave?

          More than that, I think its pretty clear that trump was an unmasking of their true beliefs.

          He was an unmasking of the fact that they have never cared about anything more than hurting marginalized people. That has been, and continues to be their collective single voter issue.

          The republicans will always be the party for those people, and those people are the most guaranteed voting demographics.

          This is of course all reliant on democracy even functioning in 1 year, which I have high doubts about. I’d say the odds are out of its favour.

          To beat the voter manipulation/intimidation/gerrymandering etc to the extent needed to actually oust trump is damn near an impossibility, and then if he gets the next 2 years, its completely over.

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            2 months ago

            That’s exactly my point. Trump did it transparently. Everything was on full display. Which means they can’t lie about what they are anymore.

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              2 months ago

              That’s not exactly a problem for them though, hence their willingness to be more open about it.

              He bet that people would be proud of being their worst, and he was right.

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        2 months ago

        I’m pretty sure they will win, the good cop-bad cop routine will continue as usual.

        At least until the dollar collapses. They’re all making a fortune.

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      2 months ago

      Once the cult leader falls, there absolutly will be a reckoning. His base is tied to him specifically, not the party.

      This is way too hopefuly thinking that I feel like too many people are hopebaiting themselves with.

      They specifically have plans, openly documented in project 2025 to no longer need the cult leader, nor votes.

      This isn’t going to just go away.

      There isn’t magically going to be some new person to join the fight and win it for you.

      Its the people, fighting apathy and the regime, and right now apathy is working tightly with the regime.

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      No, it’s not tied to him specifically. Why would you think that? There will be a new “Trump” immediately after he’s dead.

      It’s easy money, and the blood is in the water.

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        2 months ago

        There will always be a new Hitler. It’s a generational thing. But Trump kind of spent all the social currency the fascists we’re saving up, which is why those all over the world are getting their evil in while they can.

        They aren’t anticipating a legacy. They are planning for blowback. So they are doing everything they can hoping some of it survives.