• JohnnyFlapHoleSeed@lemmy.world
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    The entire concept of fracking is that you drill into a fissure, then blast it full of a dangerous chemical slurry so that it eventually forces natural gas out of the fissure. Then when all the natural gas is gone, they pack up and leave with their money. The chemical slurry stays in the ground forever, leaching into water tables, public waterways, potentially contaminating soil used for live stock and agriculture.

    We literally have a visible ball of unlimited fusion energy in the fucking sky, and natural tides that can power tidal generators, but no, let’s just poison the shit out of everyone for a slightly better profit margin…

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        Then why did it take until 1859 for human population to start trending up and reach 8 billion?

        I’ll help you: oil. The ancient Romans had geothermal, wind, tide, solar, and hydro as well.

        They had the exact same energy we do now. The difference is we have power, they didn’t.

        I’ll help you again. You can’t fertilize crops with electricity, or make plastic.

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            LOL. You can NOT be serious.

            How will you FEED all these people?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Revolution

            " and the widespread use of chemical fertilizers"

            You can NOT sustain our present human population with sunshine and puppies. Vaccines or not.

            You seriously misunderstand just about everything.

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              Ah, chemical fertilizer must be made with crude oil and natural gas! And we must have started using those in the mid 1800s!

              No, wait. Both of those are wrong.

              You can NOT sustain our present human population with sunshine and puppies.

              You know what else you can’t sustain a human population with? A planet with no fresh water and a toxic atmosphere.

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      Right, but that visible ball isn’t reliable. You have no idea when it’s going to work or not.

      If anyone cares, sunset is at 9:04 PM today.

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        It works all the fucking time. The sun doesn’t turn off. You attach batteries to the solar panels that way if there are clouds you can just use what’s in the batteries and if it’s a sunny day and you don’t need the extra energy you store it in the batteries until you do. And if it’s really cloudy in your area… Get a windmill.

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          That was the joke. We know precisely down to the second when the sun will be shining. We’ve been able to calculate that for over a century at this point.

          “Oh, what about storms and clouds!?!”

          Let me introduce those naysayers to the national energy grids. My house can get electricty from a producer thousands of miles away, so even if clouds are covering my whole state, we’re still getting power from sunny areas.

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      Lots of people have tried to convince us it’s safe. Those are the people making money from fracking.

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    There is a wild documentary called Gasland that took a look at Fracking. The movie used IR glasses to look at a fracking site that was in use. With the naked eye you couldn’t see anything, with the IR glasses there was steady stream of black exhaust that just flowed into a near by town.

    The number of tractor trailer’s of liquids that go into a fracking site is astronomical.

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    Everyone not being paid to do it would tell you it’s a bad idea. They break rocks in the substrata with no idea of how it will go or what effects it might have. Awuafers have been poisoned with natural gas, water tables have been ruined and misdirected. When the well is no longer profitable, they “cap” it and move on to greener pastures, letting the remaining gas bleed off into the environment unchecked. There are dozens of problems with fracking, but gas go boom so…

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      Yes yes, but think of the shareholder profits. Thats what really matters here, not these childish fantasies about the horrible nature of frakking and the fact that it makes water flammable! /s

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    Adding more data to a conclusion every reasonable person knows has been happening for far too long.

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      If someone “knew” before we had data, that’s not my definition of reasonable.

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        That is why they said “adding more data.” We already know tons of other bad shit about it, now we know an additional bad thing.

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      It’s common sense, but obfuscated by those still spending millions to deny climate change while the world literally burns around us. Gaslighting is a hell of a propaganda technique.

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    Good that we in Europe can’t buy Russian oil or gas (officiall) and get that beautiful fracking gas from the US regime or equally marvelous Qatar at 8 times the price.
    And nicely shipped in an endless stream of diesel tankers.
    What a fracking good deal.

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      Europe can’t buy Russian oil or gas (officiall)

      Did Nordstram I close down by any chance?

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      Some Lemmy communities would die than realize the environmental harm Europe is doing to itself to make enemies with Russia