• raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
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      5 days ago

      Let me refine: “Fuck the Israeli government!” I have no beef with the country / people insofar as they hate their genocidal government.

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        5 days ago

        Really important distinction

        Oh 99% (quite a bit less of course) of Israelis support genocide, then fuck Israel! No, you don’t throw babies out with bath water, even when they’re the worst and you’re mad as you should be.

        Fuck any genocidal Israeli assholes, but Israel is too big to go blanket on them like this.

        Why aren’t we antisemitic, b/c we know what words mean and we’re not antisemitic. Let’s talk like both those are true too.

        Netanyahu should lick my pickled taint until he stops murdering kids

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        5 days ago

        insofar as they hate their genocidal government.

        Recent polling shows only 19% of the Israeli population don’t support the genocide

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            4 days ago

            No, nothing like that, just wanting to clarify that it’s not a case of a rogue government going against popular opinion. Genocide is very popular in Israeli society, to the point that, if you ever talk to an anti-genocide Israeli, they tend to feel like political outcasts.

            IMO, Israel is unusual because a disproportionate amount of the population are migrants who moved there specifically because they support the genocidal project, and people who were born there but oppose the project are far more likely than average to be able to move to another country and get out.

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              4 days ago

              I think you are mixing the early stages of the state of Israel - certainly involving displacement and violence against Palestinian natives - with the recurring outbursts of Apartheid and crimes against humanity. There were calm phases in Israel, and many people moved there without genocidal actions ever being part of the public perception.

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                4 days ago

                There was never a time where Israel was not an colonialist and implicitly genocidal project. There also haven’t been “outbursts” of apartheid and crimes against humanity; those have been a constant at all times.