• cimbazarov@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    American online right wing propaganda is way too strong, to a point where its just a self-sustaining plague on the internet. The way it turns apolitical people into right wing nut jobs is quite scary. I would bet most people in China are apolitical and that would be ripe picking for the propaganda.

    • Large Bullfrog@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      Yeah so many get suckered in by people like Joe Rogan/Jordan Peterson/Asmengold/Tim Pool etc. All of them of have this certain playbook of intentionally hiding their power level and slowly nudging apolitical people towards the dark side.

      • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        7 months ago

        I don’t think that’s actually what happened.

        I think people like Joe Rogan et al are, themselves, slowly nudged towards the far right by their sponsors and endorsements and partnerships and guest appearances etc etc. Those idiots didn’t play some kind of long con to trick normal people into becoming rightists, they themselves changed and dragged their audiences with them. They don’t have a playbook, they’re being played.

        • cimbazarov@lemmygrad.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          Joe Rogan is the ultimate example of social being determining your conscious. As he got richer and more popular he became more right wing.

          I also agree and don’t think it was a deliberate long con by any of them (well maybe Tim Pool?). They are all just products of their environments. The right also understands how important it is to control the cultural hegemony. Theyre not just talking to people about politics, but all sorts of different niches.

  • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    It is difficult to “brainwash” people against their perceived material interests. People are “apolitical” because they benefit from the status quo. There are plenty of Chinese liberals within the mainland who are allowed to benefit from the current system as they interact with it in a way that is overall beneficial to the dictatorship of the proleteriat but if there are narratives that they feel will benefit them further which they can act on that causes malevolence, then they will potentially be a greater cost to the system than a benefit; a burden the country could do without.

    Western propaganda works because of perceived material benefits of going along with it and the costs of going against it exceed the benefits in a capitalist world; not because it injects ideas into human beings scifi/horror-movie-style like a poltergiest taking over them against their will.

    • Comrade_Improving@lemmygrad.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      7 months ago

      Good answer, comrade 🫡

      It is always important to remember to think current situations in a materialistic way, and not fall for the idealistic lie that propaganda alone is able to “brainwash” or “control” people.

      • darkernations@lemmygrad.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        Thank you - dialectical materialism really helps in understanding the science of the political economy and the articles on redsails.org really helps accelerate this understanding by breaking it down; I am still learning!