• carlossurf@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    Fuck the billionaires that do that, but that doesn’t mean that me using a straw isnt still making the shit worse. At least I can sleep at night knowing I am not making the situation worse, and I will still try to vote for politicians that are fighting against the billionaires

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        7 months ago

        Agree with this take. It’s like yeah electric cars are technically better, but any advantage they have over combustion engines is blown away by things like public transportation, or designing walkable/cyclable cities.

        Our solutions can’t just rely on swapping out for “greener” tech. We need radical changes to how we are currently living in order to ensure a livable future.

        There is no future that is not radical. This gradualist, neolib (let’s make sure all the investors get a chance to divest from dirty tech before switching!) fantasy will fuck us. It’s been fucking us for a hundred years. It’s time to try literally anything else.

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            7 months ago

            With adequate public transportation, it becomes much more comfortable and convenient.

            My city installed a few additional bike paths, and added some more buses, and the difference is huge.

            I don’t even need a car except when traveling longer distances.

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                6 months ago

                You’ve got to invest in it before it gets good. You’ve got decades of car centric infrastructure inertia making cars the more convenient choice. All you’ve got to do is invest just enough to make alternatives actually possible.

                I don’t know the challenges of your specific infrastructure, but there are certainly improvements that could be made

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                    6 months ago

                    Indeed, I think something’s got to give if we’re to have any future worth living. Probably very many things should change. I’m a bit of an misanthrope myself, so getting used to more communal arrangements is painful.

                    Would you be more likely to champion a less attractive option if it was part of a larger initiative to make a better world?

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      7 months ago

      It’s replacing real action in place of a good feeling. It’s THE plan to not do anything effective.

    • The non mushy straws aren’t terrible, but all rubberized tires are, whether on cars or bikes. The car ones are much worse.

      And air travel is even worse still

      But not close to industrial pollution which is exponentially greater.

      The billionaires could care more and put some R&D into it. They just dont.

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      7 months ago

      Sorry, but I am confiscating your moral license if the straw you use is justification.

      The straw you use does nothing but make you feel better, which I would argue is harmful. You shouldn’t feel better for doing nothing when such large problems exist.

      Your use of the right straw is akin to you killing a single invasive ant in a rain forest, and saying you did your part to remove the invasive colony. You then spend every opportunity talking about how you killed that single ant, all while the ants have already multiplied and utterly nullified your non-effort contribution.

      Shipping barges, data centers, meat production, gas and coal burning are all many orders of magnitudes greater problems than what straw you use. Gas, coal, and fossil fuel use is over 70% of all emissions, so that should be the primary conversation. In addition, these are all growing in use. Talk about that. Put your attention and action towards that.

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        7 months ago

        The straw is a metaphor for doing what you can in your own world no matter how small, not the absolute culmination of all the good that we’ve done.

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          7 months ago

          We can all do much more than straws.

          Edit: let me rephrase this. Unless you are a billionaire, there is nothing you can do individually that matters. The problem requires banding together and holding these people accountable. This requires honest communication so people at least understand what the real problem is.

          Given we are barely at the honest communication stage and ignorance is running rampant, and that we have a fast approaching deadline before nothing we do will work, I do not have much optimism for the survival of our species.