• Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 days ago

    im gonna be honest im not super sure what the point of this is. nutomic is the co-founder and co-owner of lemmy, he’s not gonna fire himself

  • pinkapple@lemmy.ml
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    9 days ago

    Clearly promoted by the bourgeoisie? Why? Wtf kind of take even is that, it’s almost indistinguishable from “x group is poisoning our society with their degeneracy”. Can someone explain it to me?

    • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.net
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      9 days ago

      sure:

      nutomic is a transphobe. he uses his authcomm conservatism to backfill justifications of his discriminatory prejudices because his liberation politics are virtue signaling and shallow. he misses that transphobia is a tool of the opressor and that a true communist uprising with durable change has to include providing rights and coalition building with minority groups that the bourgeoisie he hates so much strips rights from right now.

      and these positions influences how he and dessalines moderate and admin your home server, lemmy.ml.

    • Ginny [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      8 days ago

      Nutomic has heard of dialectics, but does not understand it beyond “dialectics is when there’s two sides”. Since he has noticed than some of the ruling class have promoted trans rights, he has therefore concluded that the ruling class as a group are pushing trans rights because it is in their material interest.

    • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      9 days ago

      In communist communities they often use the term bourgeoisie to refer to the the rich owning classes, and proletariat to refer to the working classes. That was the language used by karl marx, so it’s what they use in the spaces inspired marxist movements.

      • pinkapple@lemmy.ml
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        8 days ago

        Not that, I’m asking how someone can arrive to that wild conclusion from within a marxist perspective.

  • Hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 days ago

    For context this is the fullest version I have found of the DM conversation that is screenshotted on the petition.

    text transcription

    Screenshot of DM conversation

    User with blue bubble: "Hello!

    "I just wanted to ask if it is possible to implement support for the Firefox extension Shinigami Eyes onto Lemmy with activity pub as it works for mastodon. (reverse engineering might be necessary as the creator updates the add-on once every few months and does not communicate much with the user base)

    “It would be a great tool to have for moderators as it allows the community to quickly identify transphobes to root them out.”

    Neutomic: "Hi, were are these “transphobes” and why do they need to be “rooted out”?

    Blue: "I have seen a few as Lemmy is pretty good on moderation.

    "I thought it would be a great idea as having another method for the moderator toolkit to hold those who make our communities less safe and inclusive accountable to the rules.

    “It’s the bourgeoisie pushing the transphobia to distract from the economic issues in the capitalist system from the proletariat especially in anglophones countries.”

    Neutomic: "That’s interesting. The transgender topic is clearly promoted by the bourgeoisie, going as far as putting lgbt flags on government buildings, or allowing biological men to compete in women’s sports at the Olympics. Yet the same bourgeoisie is secretly pushing transphobia too? Seems rather far fetched to me.

    “Anyway you were talking about a Firefox plugin. Not sure why you message me, there is no approval needed to develop for Lemmy. So go ahead, I’m sure with a bit of effort you can get it working!”

    • Genius@lemmy.zipBannedOP
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      9 days ago

      I’m using Lemmy’s built in crosspost functionality. Blame Nutomic for the fact it’s duplicated across your feed. A better developer would have made it so crossposts only get delivered to the feed once. In fact, I think Piefed has that feature already iirc

      • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de
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        I dont like the nutomic any more than you, but if there is a better alternative with Piefed, then why not just use that. If its actually better, people will eventually stop using lemmy and nutomic will become irrelevant and lose any power they might have. You wont be able to separate the lemmy repository from its owners unless you make a fork.

        • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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          The effort to remove the devs from Lemmy pre-exists this DM from nutomic. It doesn’t justify his statement, and I think he didn’t really apologize in the many port mortem discussions about the DM that have taken place since.

          Now I don’t know about OP here but for a while the same people trying to take down the Lemmy devs kept finding themselves banned from trans spaces and communities.

          So I am always a little skeptical about these kinds of threads and efforts to boycott, etc, especially when theres piefed and the fact we’re in the Fediverse and not a reddit or meta-owned system.

        • Genius@lemmy.zipBannedOP
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          9 days ago

          This petition can be a tool to get people on board with Piefed if Dessalines doesn’t fire Nutomic

      • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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        9 days ago

        Fwiw when I’m posting the same thing to multiple Communities, I like to space them out in time. Partly to avoid bothering people with what might be perceived as spam, but also to maximise the chance that people online at different times might see it.