Alt Text: an image of Agent Smith from The Matrix with the following text superimposed, “1999 was described as being the peak of human civilization in ‘The Matrix’ and I laughed because that obviously wouldn’t age well and then the next 25 years happened and I realized that yeah maybe the machines had a point.”

  • Sludgehammer@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    When I heard that line I was like “Yeah, sure. We’ll never have AI in my lifespan” and you know what? I was right.

    What I wasn’t expecting was for a bunch of tech bros to create an advanced chatbot and announce “Behold! We have created AI, let’s have it do all of our thinking for us!” while the chatbot spits out buggy code and suggests mixing glue into your pizza sauce.

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      3 months ago

      When I heard that line I was like “Yeah, sure. We’ll never have AI in my lifespan” and you know what? I was right.

      Unless you just died or are about to, you can’t really confidently make that statement.

      There’s no technical reason to think we won’t in the next ~20-50 years. We may not, and there may be a technical reason why we can’t, but the previous big technical hurdles were the amount of compute needed and that computers couldn’t handle fuzzy pattern matching, but modern AI has effectively found a way of solving the pattern matching problem, and current large models like ChatGPT model more “neurons” than are in the human brain, let alone the power that will be available to them in 30 years.

    • donut_delivery@lemmy.dbzer0.comBanned from community
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      3 months ago

      You’re confusing AI and AGI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

      AGI is what people mean, when they say “AI doesn’t exist”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_general_intelligence

      While AI is a program that can do a task associated with human intelligence: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence

      AI is not supposed to be an artificial human being. AI just does a task that people associated with humans (before they readjusted the definition of intelligence after it being created).

      A bot that plays chess is an AI.

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      3 months ago

      AI is an umbrella term that covers many things we’ve already had for a long time, including things like machine learning. This is not a new definition of AI, it’s always been this definition.

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        3 months ago

        You’re not going to achieve AI on classical computers and is simply rebranded for machine learning like how 5G was advertised to bring futuristic utopia back in 2020 only to have 4K being considered a premium feature behind paid subscriptions from 𝕏 (Twitter) to YouTube.

        Quantum Computers do exist but it’s far from being on the palm of your hand.

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      3 months ago

      I genuinely do not understand these very obviously biased comments. By the very definition of AI, we have had it for decades, and suddenly people say we don’t have it? I don’t get it. Do you hate LLMs so much you want to change the entire definition for AI (and move it under AGI or something)? This feels unhinged, disconnected from reality, biases so strong it looks like delusions

      • jenesaisquoi@feddit.org
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        3 months ago

        What is delusional is calling a token generator intelligent. These programs don’t know what the input is, nor do they understand what they put out. They “know” that after this sequence of tokens, what a likely successive token is based on previously supplied data.

        They understand nothing. They generate nothing new. They don’t think. They are not intelligent.

        They are very cool, very impressive and quite useful. But intelligent? Pffffffh

    • JaymesRS@literature.cafeOP
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      3 months ago

      The rise of authoritarianism and nationalism is happening in multiple countries like Hungary, Russia, China, and the U.S. Parties like AfD have grown in strength in the last 20 years, thanks in part to the ability of social media companies to prioritize “engagement” to enable them to make more money over societal health.

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    3 months ago

    American civilization? Yes,definitely. Human civilization? I genuinely don’t think so. I believe in us as a species and think the best is yet to come (after we rid ourselves of bigots and authoritarians).

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      3 months ago

      Most of human civilization has been run by kings, emperor’s and dictators. I see the worlds rich population gaining more control than ever while the possibilities for everyone else is less and less. The lower and lower middle class have become too easily influenced by fake news and propaganda. How do we advance when people can be manipulated to go against their own best interests?

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      3 months ago

      Interestingly enough though, the directors of the matrix are two trans women

      But while yes, queerphobia was worse in some ways, it was also not as bad in others. For example, trans people didn’t have the massive organized targeted attack back then. In many ways, things have gotten worse in this aspect too