How are y’all arguing this? The banister makes it unquestionably obvious that it’s at the top. There’s no debate to be had here unless the banister was intentionally installed wrong just for the purpose of this meme, which would be crazy.
The mattress is at the top, y’all.
And do you suppose the banister would be installed if the mattresses were at the bottom?
So if we are looking up the stairs then why is the carpet worn on the front and center of each stair step?
So the people walk on the wall? (Wear of the carpet and lack of visible ledge that stairs should have)
I guess I should address the “wear” on the carpet as well: it doesn’t look worn to me, it looks disturbed. Like before this person tried shoving their mattress up the stairs and got it stuck, they carried a heavy dresser or or something up the stairs and dragged it up each stair, sliding it along the carpet. I suspect this is a person moving into a cheap efficiency apartment, since the one my father moved into last when he was still alive looked extremely similar.
My stairs don’t have a visible ledge. I don’t know why people are acting like that’s standard. I think only one of the homes I’ve lived in has had a stairwell with ledges.
This is gonna be our white and gold/black and blue dress, huh?
top or bottom doesnt matter, whats important is that you PIVOT!
Bottom, look at the wear of the carpet, lots of people have walked here.
Not just that, but the steps seem unreasonably tall and get shorter in the distance.
It already looked like bottom on first glance, The shadows and light seem to verify it.
It’s white and gold!
All joking aside, most stairs that I know had some sort of overhang, which we don’t see in this picture, so I’ll venture to say that we are looking down. The mattress is at the bottom of the stairs.
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Bottom, these stairs have a rounded lip to make them compliant with rise over run requirements in limited space.
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While I’m not 100% certain it’s not just confusing perspective, it does appear that the slope rise is shorter than the run, suggesting that this is from the top of the stairs.
Nice catch. The carpet wear corroborates this.
I think the railing gives it away.
Yeah, that too.
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Top. Stairs aren’t that tall.
Top the railing gives it away
And if you actually think for a moment you realize nobody carpets vertical parts of the steps
They absolutely do, and you’re arguing for the opposite position of the person above you
bottom, as we only can see the treads not the risers (that small inset underneath a step).
And you can see the wear on the treads. plus the handrail mount in the top left would be at a very inconvenient height if we were looking from the bottom up
The handrail argument doesn’t make any sense. It would be at the same height regardless of direction.
Also, the handrail mount is sideways if we’re looking down; if we’re looking up, it makes sense.
Maybe it is a light fixture.
It’s at the top, I have that same bannister mount, it points upwards to the banister.
The mattress is wedged at the top of the stairs thanks to its extreme springiness.
It’s the top of the stairs because in the top left of thr image you can see the banister support. If the mattresses were at the bottom then the angle of that support would be different
Why is no one else talking about this.
There’s no debate. It’s at the top of the stairs.
when the mattress is at the top, where is gravity and on what is it resting?
It could be wedged.
You think a folded in half mattress could get stuck in a stairwell? You might be on to something!
I think it might actually be held up by the other end of that banister.
Some stairs don’t have different looking risers, but you’re still correct because you can see wear marks from steps on the carpet.
I think it’s bottom too but I don’t agree with your reasoning, I’ve seen steps without that bit.
Edit: actually now I think top, I’ve been convinced by the daylight argument plus the realization that is a single mattress folded in half (I previously thought it’s two mattresses).
Edit: changed my mind again, made a top level comment
How does the single mattress in half bit make you think it’s at the top? If it were at the top, the force of the mattress trying to straighten itself out would push it down the stairs. Much more likely the mattress was pushed/ tossed/ fell down the stairs and got folded in that position, imo.
Edit: the shadows are also indicative of it being at the bottom: light source from above and and from the sides at the base of the stairs, either from an open door or window. Shadow cast from the door light source being cancelled by the light source from above the stairs.
Back when I thought it was two mattresses, I thought it couldn’t be at the top because the right mattress probably wouldn’t be held up like that. But since it’s one mattress, it can relatively easily be held at that angle with most of its weight resting on the step.
And that’s my main reason: it really seems like the mattress is being pushed towards that step, and I believe it’s being pushed by gravity. Doesn’t make as much sense for it to be pushed in that direction by someone.
I’m not married to it though, it’s a really tricky picture.
I’m not gonna lie, you’ve got me rethinking my position pointing out the right side of it. I do think though, that if it were at the top and resting on the one step, that the corner of the mattress resting on the step would be bowed in a bit more.
It is quite tricky.
Yeah. I’ve now found a reason that makes me convinced the mattress is at the bottom. I made a top level comment about it.
That’s what I was thinking too
You live in fancy houses!
I mean, it’s code for anything built during the age of home electricity.
Well, my house has electricity and the stairs do not have that indentation at all. I could take a picture of the steps from the bottom or the top and aside from the wear marks on the treads, you can’t see a difference.
built during
When was your home built?
Well after the beginning of the age of home electrification, but I’m not sure precisely. I’m renting my current house.
I don’t think any of my stairs have had such an exaggerated ledge of the tread like the picture in this thread. In my previous house (owned, built in 2000 something) it just had a little bump nailed on to the edge, but it was symmetric on both the tread and riser.
3/4" min to 1-1/4" max is code, with a 9/16" nosing. No nose is doable, but with a min step depth of 11", generally youre not seeing that outside of commercial spaces (and typically concrete).
Not sure where you are (or if your stairs are even up to code), but that’s what they are referring to.
its simply code where I live and my old home where I grew up was already old AF and had those risers and treads (albeit not as deep as they should have been, I always tripped)
Never lived in a house, only apartments with no stairs (inside the apartments) and this is obvious even to me. You can know something without ever having owned or lived with that thing.
agreed