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Cheap #bothSides nonsense.
You mean
GqP: lol no plebe
Dems: if we can get the ability, that’s our goal. Aw fuck we’ve been cockblocked by the senate again. Sorry.
Then weren’t. They had a trifecta for 2 years and it became obvious that they were unwilling to actually fight. They gave up at literally the first sign of resistance. And they haven’t put forward anything that would actually change the system. Just a pay raise.
Then weren’t. They had a trifecta for 2 years and it became obvious that they were unwilling to actually fight.
You mean the term where the Dems passed the largest healthcare in 40 years with the passing of the ACA (Obamacare)? How is that not an achievement?
It was literally mitt Romneys Healthcare plan from Massachusetts. They didn’t even get a public option. It was the bare minimum because dems didnt want to mess with the insurance companies that line there pockets.
It was literally mitt Romneys Healthcare plan from Massachusetts.
I don’t care who gets the credit for the original model. Most Americans had FAR less healthcare options before the ACA.
They didn’t even get a public option. It was the bare minimum because dems didnt want to mess with the insurance companies that line there pockets.
You’re complaining about how it could be better. Do you not remember what life was like BEFORE the ACA?
- Being denied for a preexisting condition?
- Basic wellness care like mammograms not covered?
- Swiss cheese independent coverage chocked full of “gotcha” exclusions?
Could it be better? Sure. Was it so much better than the NOTHING we had before? Absolutely!
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and focus on what they’re doing today?
You mean like the recovery of the country from COVID with the American Rescue Plan Act, or Inflation Reduction Act, the CHIPs act, Student loan forgiveness? How about repeal of the homophobic “Defense of Marriage Act”? Maybe the Honoring our PACT Act which finally recognized the conditions we put our troops in and covering their health needs resulting from that exposure? Those kind of things?
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How is that not an achievement?
Because the Dems let the GOP gut it to get it to pass. The ACA as it is now, and as it was passed back then, was not what we were promised, and we still haven’t gotten the ACA we were promised.
In fact, Harris dropped support for M4A and didn’t campaign on it, so is that an achievement too? The Dems giving up the fight before it even started? Like they did during this administration, literally bending over any time the GOP put up any kind of resistance to any of the Dems legislation?
Because the Dems let the GOP gut it to get it to pass. The ACA as it is now, and as it was passed back then, was not what we were promised, and we still haven’t gotten the ACA we were promised.
Perfect is the enemy of good.
What Obama signed with the ACA was far better than the situation before it.
Right, must be why I don’t have health insurance via the ACA because it’s unaffordable.
I make too much to qualify for actual help, but not enough to actually afford their awful health insurance plans with deductibles that negate the entire point of insurance to begin with.
And it’s all about to be undone anyway, so let’s keep singing the praises of the Democrat’s least-failure in the last decade.
Perfect is the enemy of good.
Which must be why the DNC has adopted “Progress is the enemy of our money.”
Right, must be why I don’t have health insurance via the ACA because it’s unaffordable. I make too much to qualify for actual help, but not enough to actually afford their awful health insurance plans with deductibles that negate the entire point of insurance to begin with.
Are you possibly living in a state where your GOP leadership refused to extend Medicaid which was part of the ACA? If so, you can’t complain about what the ACA doesn’t do for you if your state chose not to use it.
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The Dems let the Dems gut it. There wasn’t a Republican that supported it. The massive partisan wall that created is a huge reason why things are so fucked now.
The Dems let the Dems gut it.
I don’t disagree. The original had more stuff in it that I liked.
There wasn’t a Republican that supported it.
True. The GOP rejected it for many stupid reasons.
The massive partisan wall that created is a huge reason why things are so fucked now.
This statement confuses me. Are you suggesting the Dems should have let the GOP gut it MORE? Are you suggesting the Dems should have dropped the legislation altogether to “keep the peace”? What are you saying the Dems could have done so “things are so fucked now”?
Yes the Dems should have got some gop votes. It may have made the bill slightly worse, but not by much. In return the Democrats would have had far more negotiating power with there own members if there were a couple of the more purple Republicans that they could count on instead. It also would have prevented the bill from being a great campaign piece for Republicans, and it might not have resulted in one of the largest midterm swings ever.
Getting 95% of the ACA and a Congress that wasn’t deadlocked for the next 6 years would have been much better overall. A split government that functioned more like under Clinton or Bush would have been much better than what ended up happening. The decision to stonewall when they had power unsurprisingly backfired.
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Name one thing the US Government has done in your lifetime that you support.
One.
NOAA, NASA, USGS.
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While it IS true that you and I are both full of shit, and it is also true that I’m not 145 it is no less true that the USGS does a tonne of important survey work that makes so many other endeavors possible. It’s the sort of thing that governments should do. The ‘name one thing’ question implies that there is nothing that government does or has done that is of value. Which, to employ your terminology is even more full of shit.
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You’re so adorable when you get snarky. I see you don’t want something during my lifetime, but rather something recent. If you were better at understanding your own thoughts, I bet you’d be better at communicating them.
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Have you ever noticed that your phrasing impacts other people’s response to you? Let’s try this, since we’ve already tried snarky, and it isn’t really working all that well, so let’s try something else. Here, I’ll try first: I appreciate that you want to engage in meaningful conversation. And I’ll throw in another, just for fun: You are right that I named federal government agencies, not actions taken by the US government. Tho’ I do have to point out that these agencies do things, and have done things, yes even during my lifetime, and perhaps even yours. Even recently.
PACT Act.
The legislative push got a significant boost when Biden, who has said he believes his son Beau’s fatal brain cancer was caused by burn pit exposure, endorsed it at a State of the Union address, giving it the momentum needed to become law.
Democrats again
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