• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    4 days ago

    it took decades of this sort of strategy to get us here; expecting an immediate change is unrealistic.

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      4 days ago

      I’m not sure where you’ve been recently, but it seems pretty apparent that if you’re a president with control of Congress, you can fundamentally change American’s culture and governance systems in mere months.

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        3 days ago

        you mean like the democrats had in the first 2 years of biden’s term?

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          Laws are a concept that only some of us seem to agree upon and has no real world repercussions for the wealthy since they aren’t like laws of physics and are only enforced for those that can’t afford to negate them.

          Not knowing how things will go is just how the world works. We need leadership that at least tries and pushes for change and asks around for support making it, not money to vote yes.

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      it took decades of this sort of strategy to get us here; expecting an immediate change is unrealistic.

      Nope. Biggest group is non voting. How are those abortion rights being protected? By abstaining you’ve left them able to be removed. Tankies are so unserious. No vote for minimizing harm or growing a progressive wing.

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        3 days ago

        the democrats lost so many voters in this last election that there’s no longer enough 3rd party voters to make up for the difference and they’ll continue to lose voters as the democrats keep shifting to the right.

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          Ive said before. If you are in a red state, blue no matter who is the best you can do. That should slow down the erosion of your rights and give more time to organize. If you are in a blue state you need to show up to primaries to grow the progressive wing. Tankies are unwilling to do either; hence they are un-serious.

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            3 days ago

            what evidence do you have for this?

            EDIT: are you expecting leftists to show up to democratic primaries. if so, why would people of one party show up to the primary of another party? if this is the case; you should see what the deomocrats did to bernie in 2016 and 2020 as well as how they’re reacting to mamdani right now.

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              For better or worse the dems is where the small progressive wing we have lives. Your bad attitude about voting is what got us the republican super majority and so many of our hard fought battles rolled back so quickly. None voting is still the larges block going back decades, so no this has not already been tried.