• bbsm7620@sh.itjust.works
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    15 days ago

    Democratic Party leadership is elected. There’s nothing stopping people from getting elected to the party and forcing change.

    My take on this is that the left of the mainstream left does not like building institutions or changing them. Or their ideas are just not popular amongst the people who are politically engaged. Like I don’t think a true democratic socialist could get elected as a state party chair in any US state. If they wanted to do so they would have to build a movement similar to what conservatives did with the tea party and grow the actively engaged base of the party. Instead people just complain online and do nothing.

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      15 days ago

      You’re ignoring the role of Super PACs, which would crush even people running for DNC leadership.

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        14 days ago

        If you wanted to there is a high probably you could get elected to your local democratic committee. A lot of the times they’re uncontested or are a very small constituency you can easily canvass.

        There is nothing stopping you from registering as a democrat, knocking on all of your neighbors doors, asking them to consider registering as democrats and then asking them to vote for you.

        I personally just don’t think these ideas are popular outside of certain pockets. If you want to change that you need to do the work…

        Superpac money wont help much in a race with like 200 or even 2000 voters. If you’re willing to put the time in you can get into these positions.

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          14 days ago

          My opinion that there is zero chance that would ever happen in my case aside - in very unimpactful positions, of course, individuals have a chance and it’s fair for you to point out.

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            14 days ago

            These positions are impactful. Because they elect the county democratic committees (if your state Democratic Party is organized at the municipal level) or the county committees usually elect the state level committees (with some exceptions). The state committees then elect the national officers/ DNC reps.

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              14 days ago

              I appreciate your responses and perspective - I truly hope somebody finds it useful.

              I would sooner run for other forms of leadership in my community, as I have lost confidence that organizing around the Democratic Party will translate to concrete change.

              However, I don’t wish to diminish or discourage well-intentioned action, any and all action is appreciated in my book - regardless of how I might personally view the situation.

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      14 days ago

      There’s nothing stopping people from getting elected to the party and forcing change.

      They ran out the vice chair of the dnc as soon as they started doing that lol

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      15 days ago

      There’s nothing stopping people from getting elected to the party and forcing change.

      Lol

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        14 days ago

        I don’t understand how you people think. You want people to collectively organize, come to unified working class populist thought, but once you do that, you can get all those people to vote for a 3rd party candidate.

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                  14 days ago

                  No but people who repeat Russian propaganda tend to be either Russian or paid bots.

                  That’s not how it works. If Russia and I both say the sky is blue, that’s hardly proof that my opinion is tied to Russia in any way.

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                  14 days ago

                  No but people who repeat Russian propaganda tend to be either Russian or paid bots.

                  Prove that I’m “repeating Russian propaganda”, and then prove that “people who repeat Russian propaganda tend to be either Russian or paid bots.”

                  Because both of those claims are bullshit.

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                    14 days ago

                    Prove that I’m “repeating Russian propaganda”,

                    You’re denying the claim that Russia helped Trump get elected and are spreading fascism throughout the world via the internet.

                    and then prove that “people who repeat Russian propaganda tend to be either Russian or paid bots.”

                    I’m not sure how to prove that? But like I said, Trump supporters repeat a lot of Russian propaganda. Marxists, too. It’s sad really.

                    Which one are you?

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      14 days ago

      Have you ever heard the news of what happened to David Hogg? There is plenty stopping people from getting elected and making changes. Like a sudden revote to make sure he loses his seat he fought to win.

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      12 days ago

      There’s nothing stopping people from getting elected to the party and forcing change.

      Except for, ya know, the Democratic leadership, demonstrably.