In December, Luigi Mangione was arrested for shooting health insurance executive Brian Thompson. Last week, Trump’s attorney general, Pam Bondi, announced that she was seeking the death penalty. It’s a highly unusual announcement, since Mangione hasn’t even been indicted yet on a federal level. (He has been indicted in Manhattan.) By intervening in this high-profile case, the Trump administration has made clear that it believes that CEOs are especially important people whose deaths need to be swiftly and mercilessly avenged.

  • Rachel@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 months ago

    I think the death penalty being on the table would increase the likelihood of the jury finding a reasonable doubt or jury nullification. It would only hurt the prosecution imo.

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      7 months ago

      OR it’s going to prejudice the jury against him, like it usually does.

      When capital punishment is on the table, only people who are in favor of it are selected for the jury, and people who are in favor of state murder are MUCH more likely to return a guilty verdict than people who aren’t.

      That’s one of hundreds of reasons why civilized legal systems don’t murder prisoners anymore.

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        7 months ago

        Why the fuck does the prosecution have the ability to put punishments on the table that are known to bias jury selection?

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        7 months ago

        Yup. One of the main reasons people oppose the death penalty is because of the proven record of innocent people receiving death sentences. Approximately 4% of people who receive death sentences are actually innocent. We execute many innocent people in this country. The system absolutely does not operate on the principle of “it is better for 1000 guilty to go free than for one innocent to be unjustly punished.”

        Many oppose the death penalty because they realize just how poor our justice system is at actually determining guilt and innocence. Those who assume it is near-infallible will be much more likely to support the death penalty. So if you screen out those opposed to death sentences, you also screen out people who are more skeptical of the criminal justice system overall.

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    7 months ago

    I’ll defend it:

    He traveled to murder a guy he never met before after stalking him online, carved words from a manifesto into bullet casings, engineered a 3D printable unregistered firearm, fled the scene of the crime with enough cash to live off of for years, and openly denies any wrongdoing by pleading innocent. He is absolutely likely to try it again, or perhaps worse, if released.

    If the death penalty exists, and honestly I don’t think it should, then it should apply fairly and treat all human life equally.

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        7 months ago

        Nobody is talking about taking him out back and shooting him. They’re discussing if the maximum punishment for the crime if and when found guilty should include death.

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      7 months ago

      Welcome to down votes, where you fail to see that they are being extra hard on him because he shot one of the surface dwellers. The difference is his alleged motivations which were to kill someone that has been actively engaging in spreading human misery for profit. In a practical sense, he allegedly killed a mass murderer that was for some reason never charged with a crime.

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          No, a man with the right to be innocent until proven guilty is being presumed guilty before due process can be done.

          There is a difference

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            Bro idk who tf you think you’re arguing with or over what but it’s not me. He deserves a fair trial, and that means not dropping maximum sentences because some dweebs asked incessantly.

            If you want to change the laws then change it for everyone, not just this fucking loser.

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              7 months ago

              I debated how to reply to you for probably too long. The best reply I could think of, is the following:

              Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
              The ceremony of innocence is drowned;