For a lot of the world, certainly in Britain, supplying medicine to people who need it is a very different concept to pharmaceutical companies doing good business.

tiny country

Uhhh… u wot?

That’s not the implication.

That’s right, it’s not implied, it’s stated explicitly:

“Or Germany needs to repatriat all Israelis back into her, relinquishing Israel back to Palestine.”

Jesus, this is what the UK has become. Following the US down into the gutter.

https://archive.is/e4iGv

Apple was forced to follow EU regulations … so the EU can tell a foreign company

This is wrong. Apple isn’t a foreign company from the perspective of the EU. Their EU headquarters are in Cork:

https://www.apple.com/careers/us/work-at-apple/locations/cork.html

They also have offices in Munich, Prague, Copenhagen, Paris, Berlin, Stuttgart, Barcelona and Stockholm:

https://www.apple.com/careers/us/work-at-apple/locations.html

the fact their servers are offshore and the company is offshore doesn’t matter

This is wrong.

they’re doing business in the UK by being made available there

This is wrong.

thus must be bound to those laws

This is wrong.

they have an obligation(duty) to uphold British law

Let me get this straight, you’re claiming that non-UK citizens acting outside of the UK are subject to UK law?

how’s that hard to grasp

If you are claiming what it seems like you’re claiming then it’s not difficult to grasp, it’s just wrong.

the point was the UK is not the only one trying to do it

I don’t see any evidence of the EU trying to do with the GDPR what the UK is trying to do with the Online Safety Act.

they can totally enforce the fine by restricting those businesses from doing business within their territory until they comply

That’s sanctioning, not enforcing a fine.

And yes they can do that but that’s not what Ofcom is talking about. Ofcom have explicitly stated that foreign citizens have “duties” under UK law. The word “duty” has a very specific meaning in English law, in fact it’s really one of the most basic concepts. It means there is an obligation on someone and if that obligation is not fulfilled then courts have the power to take action.

Sanctioning a foreign citizen doesn’t imply an obligation. There can’t be an obligation because a foreign citizen, by definition, is not subject to English law. Ofcom is claiming that foreign citizens are subject to English law.

I don’t know how you could get it more wrong.

LOL

Fine companies in other countries

Firstly, the GDPR is legislation, it can’t act in the world, like fine people. I presume you’re referring to the EU and not the GDPR.

Secondly, the EU has no power in “other” countries, by which I presume you mean non-EU countries. It’s not possible for the EU to fine companies in non-EU countries. They could issue a fine but they have no power to enforce or collect the fine. The non-EU companies can quite legally just laugh at the EU and give them the finger.

the GDPR does apply outside of the EU

What do you mean exactly? What do you mean by “apply”?

GDPR does this as well

I don’t understand what you’re referring to with the word “this”. What is it you believe the GDPR does as well?

Is it important?

Given that’s a British party and the participants will be mostly British and connecting from Britain, then yes.

Surely this is the strength of federation

I’m not sure what you think is a strength here. Just because you can create a community anywhere doesn’t mean it’s a good idea to ignore geography or jurisdiction.

Ofcom began investigating 4chan over alleged violations of the Online Safety Act in June. On August 13, it announced a provisional decision and stated that 4chan had “contravened its duties”

How on Earth did a UK government office determine that a foreign entity is subject to UK laws? On the surface, this seems like extreme ignorance and stupidity on the part of Ofcom. Shameful.

Edit: ‘an Ofcom spokesperson told 404 Media. "Under the Online Safety Act, any service that has links with the UK now has duties to protect UK users, no matter where in the world it is based’ – https://slashdot.org/story/446052

Holy fucking shit they really are that ignorant. What an embarassment.

The Lemmy instance where you created this community isn’t British.

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Marvin

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:-/

I have a way to fight back

No, they don’t.

he hasn’t got a chance

You mean the MP who’s been consistently voted in to his seat since 1983, over 40 years? Who was leader of the opposition and a contender for prime minister? Who’s now forming a whole new party together with a bunch of other MPs at a time when the party that got voted into power in a landslide in response to the last shit show of a goverment has shown themselves to be no different in kind to said shit show? That guy?

You wish he didn’t have a chance.

I disagree.