Your point is cogent enough and well explained. It seems diconnected tho.
Try building your own rules. The pieces you seem to think don’t matter are actually where one starts in that project. The gritty business of morality is its foundation.
I learned my own code of behavior by making a lot of mistakes. I did things I’m not proud of. The things I believe in today had to be slapped into my skull.

Heh. Again, I have no argument. I bet we’d have a lively discussion at a pub. :)

buncha moral philosophers nobody’s read said stuff about moral philosophy

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Never heard of it. My name has a meaning too. Won’t bother to explain.

Hey, there’s a place for a bit of anarchy in any society. Grease the wheels of change.
I’m discussing shitting in the park with the perilous out-house guy (lol. person.). Lemmy moment.

I know. I used to shit in the park. Nice to meet you, friend.

Do we still get to loot his stuff?

Community service as punishment is meant to link you back to your community. Where you live. Where you presumably shat. Go clean that up. We live here.

The common good includes oneself. The tragedy of the commons is only possible when its “somebody else’s problem”. When that’s “my park”, you clean up the shit.

Yes, people are problematic and largely prone to shitting in the park. They have to be taught. It’s not easy.

I find no argument. It’s a big project. Much bigger than me.
I mean, I have no morals. I do things my way, because its best for me and everyone else.
I’m a self-serving rationalist that’s realized that society and my place in it are of great personal benefit and it behooves me to support them in all ways.

I don’t think this is real or helpful towards understanding the world. The measure of morality is the shape of your life after you practice it. Your impact on others. Morals are about things that matter. You’ve come quite near to postulating that they don’t matter. I cannot support this view.

I unfortunately agree that people largely do not adhere to what one might regard as the normal moral code. In fact there are loud voices saying it is defunct. But its still there. We still use it to judge.
These are some of the reasons that I feel one should be open to rebuilding the squishy biz that is morals into something based on objective values. This project has been tackled by much better men, and I have nothing to add. Rene Descartes. Immanuel Kant. Even Friedrich Nietzsche had powerful things to say about reworking morals into something that actually works.

Why did I enjoy that so much? Right down to the mom’s look as she left. Sheathing the axe. Marginally solid.

I guess you can’t go with my solution. Hell, if it gets any longer, I may actually need a haircut, but I haven’t had one in 5 years.
I’m a guy; nobody cares about my hair.

There you go, starting to establish a new system of beliefs from first principles. You don’t have to call it morality, if you don’t start from some existing authority. In the end, if whatever belief system you build actually works, it winds up looking very like our existing moral code.

Is this mildly infuriating? No. This is a joke comm, not a group cry.

I’m not gonna read whatever weird BS that came from, but I do think its entirely possible to have a coherent and attractive worldview without morality. If you want to make any sense to normal people, you have to replace it with a belief system that emphasizes community service and the common good. In the end, if it works, it winds up looking just like morality with objective foundations.

That seems like a positive result!

Don’t bother. She’s already perfect.

I stopped cutting my hair when Covid closed all the barbers. Got a fukin mane now. Dunno, seems to have worked out. Still waiting for my billions tho …

Method: Spend very little. Spend in few places. Use cash.
Results: Stellar. I don’t think about it much. I put money aside consistently.
Timeframe: 15 years? Something like that. I had IRS problems, and stripped my life down. Its all clean now, and I keep it that way.

The urinals should be increasing heights to match this spectrum.

And no. But my father was an electrician at a solar plant. Does that count?