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  • chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.comtoFuck Cars@lemmy.worldSad but true
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    13 hours ago

    To me whether this comic is being fair hinges on stuff like, how many people are being intentionally murdered with cars but the killer gets off easy because of the method? How many accidental gun deaths are prosecuted more harshly than they should be? I don’t actually know the answer to these. It does seem relevant that guns are a tool designed for killing.














  • the conditions of meat chickens living in cages is the reason why bird flu spread so much

    There is actually a bad epidemic in wild birds recently, and there is a big risk of it transferring from them to chicken flocks when they have access to the same space.

    One cow with a low quality of life imo is less ethical than a bunch of chickens with a decent quality of life, even if we consider numbers.

    I guess that makes sense, if you can make an animal’s life good overall, in that situation maybe it wouldn’t be a net negative to farm more of them. Though realistically I think it’s going to be very difficult to have any confidence you’re buying such meat at the grocery (if you can even afford the stuff claiming to be more ethical) and you’d probably have to raise the animals yourself for that.




  • but it’s a lot easier to have free range chickens than it is to have cows doing the same.

    I don’t know about that, it’s pretty difficult to keep (what I would consider) genuinely free range chickens because of predators and various other factors (the need to keep them away from wild birds because of bird flu comes to mind), and the commercial definition of free range doesn’t necessarily guarantee a good quality of life. There’s also how meat chickens are mostly all a specific type of crossbreed that is perpetually hungry, prone to cannibalism and health problems, and not meant to live longer than a few months.

    But even if you could say that the average chicken raised for meat is better off than the average cow raised for meat, there’s still how you need vastly more of them for the same amount of meat, so if their lives are still a net negative and you’re weighing it by sum of individual experiences, it could be considered worse from a utilitarian perspective because of the numbers.