I typically avoid those foods because I know they have fish sauce, but it’s not always obvious and restaurants tend to forget/mislabel/misrepresent them. It’s also worth noting that they can be made without fish, and fish-less versions are common (ie: kimchi).
To give a different example, I ordered stuffed mushrooms at a diner once after asking the waitress what was in it. She said it was mainly bread crumbs and cheese. Surprise surprise, it was crab.













Seafood is one of the only things I don’t eat. I do eat meat on occasion (mainly chicken), but I’ve learned I can’t even trust “vegetarian” options at Asian places, and I’m super cautious around Italian food as well.
I’m not a fan of seaweed either, which is often the vegetarian option. It tastes like low tide to me.