• ryan_@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Vote with your wallet. Money is the only thing that matters to the people in charge here

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      Voting with your wallet is a lie, like recycling plastic

      You can’t do collective action individually. You can make the house hurt a little bit, but you’ll never force them to change through what you buy. The house always wins, unless you get together to change the rules

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        I disagree with this. You can already see a recent example of Canadian consumers avoiding US imports, creating pressure on US companies, and the US government reacting by making moves to curtail the original tarrifs proposal.

        Obviously the Canadian boycott was only one component but I believe it did have a meaningful impact.

        Kind of agree with you re:plastics. Last time I read about it they could only be recycled once into inferior quality plastic. Ironically in this case I’d suggest voting with your wallet is a solution to the plastic problem since businesses will react to more consumers switching to responsibly packaged products like paper bags for fruit + veg from a local grocers. One of the large supermarket chains in the UK, Waitrose, switched to paper bags due to public pressure in the past few years.

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        Most nations are built on genocide, it’s an unfortunate part of human nature to be cruel to those not like your group.I mean the last hundred years alone, the of Cossacks if Crimea, the holocaust, Kaiser run Germany committed one before WW2, Ottomans genocide Armenia, China is actively engaged in one now, as well as Israels current actions in Gaza, and that’s just off the top of my head, but somehow only the USA is built on it. You ignore the skeletons in your own foundations and dishonor yourself and their deaths by doing so

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            The USA was built the same way all nations were, by subjugation and eradication but we are one of the few looked down on for it and outright called irredeemable for it

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              Oh! Lookie here, a fascist for breakfast. My day is off to a lovely start.

              The difference is in the history. America has NEVER been honest about its origins. No other modern nation was built on slavery like we were. Britain abolished it decades before America. And after WWII, they gave up the rest of their colonies because it was the right thing to do. That’s when the American Empire took off. Naval bases in every country. Global watchdog, above the laws everyone else has to follow.

              America? It only stopped genociding Indians when they were such a small population that they couldn’t pose a threat to the white man, and it still fucks them over every chance it can. Edit: oh yeah, and then it painted them as villains in cowboy movies for half a century. Nice.

              Racism is so deeply embedded in America that the simple claim that black lives matter turned into a controversy. You know what a normal nation would’ve done? Examine their police. Us? We said fuck those people, let the racist cops do whatever they want. Do you have any clue what it’s like to raise a black son in America? I’m white myself so I can’t speak firsthand, but I have talked to numerous people who’ve told me about “the Talk”. You know about this? It’s not the birds and the bees, it’s about how to behave around cops so they don’t kill you. How insanely fucked up does your country have to be for that??

              This is called honesty. Progress can’t be made without it.

              I’ve made it my life’s work to fight white supremacy in the blue collar South and I’ll fucking devour you whole.

              Edit: I’d like to print out to anyone stumbling across this that that sumbitch knows I’m right and is lying bloodied in the mud at my feet, crying, like a little bitch. Just like the ones I’ve beaten in real life after they insisted on dancing. Bullies have come after me my whole fuckin life and I’ve learned EXACTLY how they work. I know the strategies fascists use on forums like these. And I’ll bet you’ve logged me, maybe you’ve got someone looking into me. I don’t doubt the fascist Musk’s AI has flagged me for all kinds of shit and it’s just a matter of time now.

              I ain’t fuckin scared of you, and your mother should be ashamed.

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                It’s not so much you’re right (you only have part of the equation) but the absolute dedication to walking yourself off about how righteous you are and how you “left me bleeding on the ground” much like other white folk have physically left me in the past for my heritage. You immediately declared me a fascist for disagreeing with you and while you made good points it’s lost in your threat based rhetoric and chest beating antics, I hope you get better and less intolerant Settler

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                  Less intolerant?? Look buddy im sorry i didn’t somehow know you were Native but if youre still waving an American flag after the last six months I don’t care.

                  I got pissed off because you were defending the US in the midst of all this. Im a goddamn anarchist. I routinely remind other crackers whose land we stole.

                  So maybe its a good thing I pissed you off so much youre coming back to this after how long now? Two months my god

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                  Look, I do mean it when i say im sorry. I don’t actually like being angry, it bugs me. But actual fascists are somehow everywhere around me in the Deep South, man. And I’ve seen a lot of em sneak on here and argue in bad faith. I’ve got a zero tolerance for white supremacy and that’s where I thought you were coming from.

                  So. I came out a bit too aggressive there, but I will remind you that until you tell someone who you are on here, youre basically anonymous.

                  I am curious to the original point of contention, though - why would you defend America’s founding?