Since openai removed access to 4.5, I am looking for something comparable from any other company.
Personally, I used it when 4o was not good enough. 4.5 was way better at research and doing more complex programming tasks.
What is comparably good in your experience?
https://nano-gpt.com/ is nice, but you have to trust them to stand by their saying
I generally use the big Qwen 3 models, Deepseek chat, GPT OSS 120b (inferior in many tasks, but pretty good for language)
Why don’t you use GPT 5?
I have a suite of tests that I run to compare AI quality for “problems” that I use it for that actually came up in real life. Not synthetic benchmarks that might mean nothing for my usecase. I also use them to evaluate open source models that I can run. The gist is: 5 performs worse than 4.5 even today after the update where they supposedly made it more intelligent.
A big one that I noticed is asking it for a challanging coding task, then asking it to extend it with additional functionality. It removed functions that I specifically requested in the first step. I never implied that those were not needed anymore. When asking it to put the old functions back it, it removed the newly added ones. Tried it multiple times in new chats and also logged out in private tab with VPN.
I don’t like the recent moves from the company in general, feels like enshittification and the opposite of what OPENai originally stood for so I stopped paying and would like to delete my account soon.
This seems really good! I like the pricing model. Will try it out, thanks a lot for sharing!
Damn, about GPT 5, I was afraid of this. My personal favorite was o4-mini-high which had nice thinking, could easily research stuff and was pretty versatile. It sucks.
They released a FOSS model that isn’t too bad but not great either, so that’s that. Didn’t expect them to make that move. I believe there are far worse companies that OpenAI, but they’re really not perfect, I agree. They lack transparency and it’s painfully obvious.
You’re welcome! Paying by prompt and having access to many models is really nice. I only used OpenAI’s stuff because I couldn’t be bothered to make accounts on other website with their weird interfaces… so having a place where I can anonymously pay, that claims not to store conversations, and has a lot of models where you pay by prompt, it’s great.
I do hope that they enforce their privacy stance though. They claim they ask the companies not to use the data you input, but you rely on the company who provides the model. Good thing they have TEE models, but there’s still them in the way, which you can’t be certain of (even though they say it’s provable, which isn’t?)
It seems globally well seen in the privacy ecosystem of cryptocurrency, so there might not be anything better currently. And they embrace the NANO cryptocurrency which I discovered. Bad for privacy, but a fabulous crypto (no tx fees, eco friendly)
Yea, the best way to know is to input things you would really try
Recently discovered https://lmarena.ai/ and sometimes I try a prompt that isn’t personal or sensitive, and check how the different models do. Allows me to find the best (or less bad) one
I feel like I’m spamming you, sorry haha
If you use nano-gpt, you can make two accounts, and use #1 to create a referral code and send it to #2, and #2 creates one for #1. This way you get a permanent 5% discount on usage (when using the website), plus you earn back 10% of what you spend on the other account. Not sure if that’s authorized, but it works
If you have an account feel free to send me a referral code by pm
I prefer to preserve my anonymity, but that’s very kind of you ❤️
They don’t do IP detection, you account is saved in a cookie or with an email (I recommend you set an email so you don’t lose your account in case you clear your cookies)
Making two accounts is as easy at opening a private tab or a second browser to create another account. Just put two different emails and there you go, you’ll get 15% savings total. When your main account is empty, you can go on the second to use the 10% you earned back