So apparently for lemmy.world mods pointing out that the word “anti-semite” is far more used than "antigypsyism, anti-Romanyism, antiziganism, ziganophobia, or Romaphobia” even though the Nazis targetted both Jews and Roma in the Holocaust, is, somehow, “Criticizing Jewish people as a whole”.

Or maybe it’s the whole “I don’t care about any one specific race, I care about people and think it’s always unjusct when people are treated differently based on things they were born with, such as race” that was deemed “Criticizing Jewish people as a whole”.

Good old lemmy.world: they were called on it repeatedly so eventually walked back on the whole “criticizing Israel is anti-semitic” but apparently if you don’t go along with the view that racism against a very specific group is much worse than racism against people from other groups, then you must be against that specific ethnic group.

My comment in text for reference:

All clearly as frequently used as “anti-semitism” /s

And yeah, I don’t care about race, any race, I care about people, which includes that they’re not unjustly treated for things that were not their choice, such as the race they were born into.

It’s Racists who feel the need to care about a race or races, defending things for some races which they do noit defend for others, doing little performances about how others must care about those races too and that those who don’t “are against those races” - for them race comes first, defining a person and dictating how they should be treated.

For Humanists race is something that should be of as little importance to how somebody is treated as the color of their eyes or how tall they are, and yet they see again and again race weponized by Racists to treat people differently even though those people haven’t actually earned such treatment through their actions: in other words race fro Humanists is something that should be irrelevant yet has been turned by others into a pivot for injustice.

It’s pretty obvious from your little performance which one you are

  • Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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    1 month ago

    I agree, the way I put it and without the rest of the context it doesn’t translate well the point I was trying to make, and even though I tried to clear my viewpoint in later paragraphs (especially the one about Humanism), it was either badly done, not read by most people or too late to change the idea they made in the previous paragraphs.

    Still, from that to it being "Criticizing Jewish people as a whole” as stated by the mod is a huge, huge leap.

    My whole point is built as follows:

    • Racial discrimination hurts people and is felt very personally by those victimized, as human beings not as “members of a race”. It’s the aggressors, not the victims, who see it as an attack on a race (in their twisted minds they’re “fighting a race” and their victims have been dehumanized to nothing more than “members of a race”).
    • So adopting the “it’s all about races” point of view on racial discrimination is adopting the aggressor’s perspective.
    • If you don’t adopt that viewpoint, then racial discrimination is seen as human beings being treated unjustly and even made to suffer and killed by other human beings who use race as an excuse. That doesn’t mean racial discrimination doesn’t exist, it just puts it in context as the irrational motives of the aggressors. From that viewpoint the “alarm” and “urgency in addressing” cases of racial discrimination is based on harm caused and how often to the victims, not on what the aggressors think and hence not on the race of the victims.
    • So for me looking at it from this later - Humanitarian - perspective, the amount of attention and alarm (as reflected by the constant use of the word “anti-semitism”) to racial discrimination specifically against the Jewish People is insanely disproportionate to the present day damage caused by that specific form of racial discrimination compared to racial discrimination against other ethnicities which is barely talked about (in Europe the most shocking example being Romaphobia), a situation which cannot be logically explained by “hurt minimization” (since there the greatest alarm would be about the greatest harm, not which ethnicity is targeted) and hence the only logical explanation left for such behavior is Racial Preference, aka Racial Discrimination, aka Racism.

    Absolutely, of this was the 1940s from a Humanitarian perspective it would make total sense that anti-semitism would be the kind of racial discrimination that people should be most alarmed about and fight the hardest against, because that was the one causing the most harm.

    80 years later, in the 2020s, anti-semitism is far from one of the top most harmful forms of racial discrimination and hence the disproportionate alarm about it we see in the Press in many countries and even often here, is either artificial for propaganda purposes and/or based on many people holding Racial Preferences (often whilst thinking of themselves as anti-Racists) and hence reacting differently to the various kinds of racial discrimination, purely based on the targeted race rather than on any considerations about the harm being done.

    It’s in this - pardon my French - pile of shit of widespread Racist perspectives even in the very core of the fight against Racism, that we end up with situations of people claiming “anti-semitism” when somebody criticizes the ethnic Genocide being committed by Israel in Gaza when the worst (when measured by actual harm caused) form of racial discrimination in the present day in the World is probably that of the majority of the Israeli population against Palestinians.