So instead of a racial slur they now make fun of Anime/Manga/Video Game fans
“Moe (Japanese: 萌え; pronounced [mo.e] ⓘ), sometimes romanized as moé, is a Japanese word that refers to feelings of strong affection mainly towards characters in anime, manga, video games, and other media directed at the otaku market. Moe, however, has also gained usage to refer to feelings of affection towards any subject”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moe_(slang)
That in combination with Ghoul
“In folklore, a ghoul (from Arabic: غول, ghūl) is a demon-like being or monstrous humanoid, often associated with graveyards and the consumption of human flesh”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghoul
creates a not very nice combination.
Christ, what a stretch. It’s obviously a play on the tech Mogul definition.
Not a bigger stretch then with the Ty Coon, that was obviously a play on the Tycoon.
It was not me who started to read bad things into word play, but by that rules is Moe Ghoul offensive too.
Sure, because the persecution of black people in the US is at all equivalent to the bullying of anime nerds, right.
The problem is not that thin-skinned people could do mental gymnastics to find reasons to be upset, it’s that ‘coon’ is straight up a racial slur that was historically a major tool of oppression.
Tbf, it’s also still used to refer to actual raccoons and coonskin hats and such. It’s also is still to this day an actual surname, there could literally be a guy with that actual name (actually, googled it, looks like there’s a Resort in Maui, and the CEO of something called Savvy both actually have that name, albeit the resort with an s on the end). Monkey is also “straight up a racial slur that was historically a major tool of oppression” and also people still call others monkeys for just acting silly or haphazardly, and there’s of course the animal. Jig is another, it both can be used as a racial slur or to describe a little dance.
Point being, there are both racist and innocuous uses of all those words, and without knowing more about the author we don’t have sufficient information to conclude intent. Hell I don’t even know their country of origin, it’s possible they’re not American, ESL, etc, and have no idea the connotations of the word beyond “name pun.”
Fair point, but I can’t blame them for playing it safe here.
Bullying should never be ok, and rules should be valid and applicable for everyone.
Nobody should be a valid target for verbal abuse, not even anime nerds.
So if a rule against verbal harm and abuse are implemented (which I am not against at all) then such rule should be valid and used for all cases. There is no equality if new inequality is created in the process.
What’s wrong with ty coon
That’s a massive reach.
A massive reach of it being literally the same word? Like obviously they didn’t mean it in a racist way but clearly they decided that having a racial slur in the docs there was not something they felt good about.
So does apple, coconut, cracker, gin, barbarian, brownie, skinny, spade, spook, teabag and a whole host of different words.
It should never be about the word itself, but how it’s being used. Someone being called a genius doesn’t usually mean they are being applauded for their intellect either, for example.I grew up calling racoons “coons” in the region of the US I live in and it’s still common to call them that nowadays. Words can have contextual meanings. If I hear the word “removed” and it turns out some guy is working on his car, I’m not going to be offended, and I shouldn’t be, because it’s not being used as a slur.
All said and done, I don’t particularly think it’s a big deal to change it, but I do believe it’s a highly performative gesture.
So like, its not necessarily about offense. Some folks who have suffered abuse and aggression because of their minority status have visceral, trauma responses to certain things. When I hear the t-slur used, for example, it invokes a deep anxiety and panic. That doesn’t mean that I think that anyone who says it is a transphobe (like the car guy in your example might be talking about his transmission or some silly thing like that) and I’m not going to rage and scream at him. But I’m not weird or wrong for asking him not to say it because it triggers me. This isn’t a discussion about how we should cancel people for using words, its a discussion about how we can accommodate our fellow people.
The OP shows some folks making a change that is so minor we shouldn’t even be talking about it, so that they can be just a touch more likely not to affect someone negatively. Even if its performative, who cares, they did it and it affects nobody negatively.
More concerning, I think, is the people jumping in this thread acting like this is woke cancel culture gone wild and we can’t use normal words anymore.
Bah, lemmy, please just let me devolve into a reactionary right winger! Stop making me learn things and have empathy and compassion for people!
You’re right. Fuck. It’s just tiring being wrong. I grew up in a way that getting mad about something like this would just be replied with “tough shit”. I guess old habits die hard. If changing it really makes that much of a difference for people, then yeah, great job gnu people.
