• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    6 days ago

    you’d think that this would carry some sort of punch or realization with american liberals and conservatives, but each one i’ve shared this with thinks that it’s meaningless.

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    5 days ago

    Had to read up on this and came over this gem: Loyalty day. My only question is why do Americans bend over so willingly to get fucked by capital as it pleases? Is the taste of boot really that great?

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      Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew, trade unionists proposed that a day be set aside to celebrate labor. “Labor Day” was promoted by the Central Labor Union and the Knights of Labor, which organized the first parade in New York City. By the time it became an official federal holiday in 1894, thirty states in the U.S. officially celebrated Labor Day.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Day

      The unions chose the date, the state followed years and years later.

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        5 days ago

        Oh I know. They co-opted the date to make it unamerican to celebrate labour day. What is baffling me is that you guys just let them do it.

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          What?

          It’s an official holiday, that’s state recognition of it to celebrate it, not make it unamerican.

          And it was first made an official holiday before Europe made May Day a holiday. Based on a date chosen by unions.

          You’re complaining that workers celebrated an event before Europe and didn’t retroactively follow your date. What eurocentric anti-worker shit is that?

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            I am complaining that

            It was in this environment that Loyalty Day (originally called “Americanization Day”) was created in 1921 as an explicit replacement for International Workers’ Day.[6][5]

            I have no clue what you are rambling on about.

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              And I’m talking about Labour Day, the day to recognise labour movements and their achievements.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Day

              Loyalty Day is not a holiday, Labour Day is and Americans celebrate it. It predates May Day, which is why they don’t celebrate May Day.

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                I am not, but if I were I would probably point out that the capitalist class have co-opted this as well and replaced the material contents of the, ehrm, “holiday,” as you call it.

                To take advantage of large numbers of potential customers with time to shop, Labor Day has become an important weekend for discounts and allowances by many retailers in the United States, especially for back-to-school sales. Some retailers claim it is one of the largest sale dates of the year, second only to the Christmas season’s Black Friday.[40]

                Well, but what do I know? Maybe the international May day is flawed and that actually American exceptionalism will reshape the mode of production by going on a shopping spree on their “holiday”.

                EDIT: I realize that you might be confused about me calling May day for Labour day, which is solely a direct translation from what we call May day here. I still stand by everything of the above though.

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                  How is it American exceptionalism to do something first?

                  It is Euro arrogance to expect the world to change to suit your choice at a later date.

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    6 days ago

    This is just wrong. Multiple countries don’t celebrate May Day.

    For example we celebrate Labour Day in Australia on a different date because we got the 8 hour work day decades before the rest of the world. It makes no sense for us to follow a later date based on a US strike.

    And America celebrates Labor Day on the first Monday of September and this also predates the meeting of the Second International who chose the first of May.

    So as far as your meme goes, it’s inaccurate and America was ahead of everyone celebrating May Day…