• finitebanjo@lemmy.world
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    I’ve just always heard “US Imperialism” in context of things like NATO, Ukraine, Vietnam, formerly Afghanistan, and Israel but TBH Israel is more the UK’s baby, Vietnam had more French soldiers on the ground, and people like to conveniently leave out US cooperation with Saudi Arabia.

    It just feels like a term with intentionally blurred context and no real meaning outside of a derogatory term for NATO. What do you think it means?

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      1 month ago

      Imperialism isn’t just about military actions. The US also has great economic impact. Just look at all the BS coming out of Trump’s trade wars… Imperialism is about being bullish in interaction and expanding influence and control. It looks messy … because it is messy.

      Note: As the original post points out, just because the US is bad does not magically make enemies of the US good regardless of the color of cloak they hide their own BS behind.

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        All the Bullshit coming out of Trump’s trade wars impacts the USA first and foremost. It’s not forcing any other nation to sell for less or cut off relationships to other nations.

        If making mutually beneficial deals was “imperialism” then it sounds like you just want the USA to suffer in general.

        IMO calling out Iraq would be a great argument against US Imperialism. Exxon Mobil was the bigger winner from that invasion.

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          All the Bullshit coming out of Trump’s trade wars impacts the USA first and foremost.

          Failed imperialism is still imperialism. Trump’s trade wars are, quite nakedly by his own statements, meant to force other countries into a position of subservience to the US (and Trump himself). That they’ve failed because Trump doesn’t understand jack about shit doesn’t mean it wasn’t an attempt to use economic coercion as a means of imperialism - it just means Trump et co are incompetent imperialists.