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    19 days ago

    Only out of necessity, Russia has shown that they are done playing the diplomatic game (though they have been playing it quite badly), the US has fully shat it’s pants and is rolling around in it and China has the carving knife ready for when Russia colapses, if Europe is to survive we need to federalize.

    At an absolute minimum, we need to build a unified military under one leadership throughout the EU, military personal from the south must be expected to defend Europe in the north, and vice versa.

    I don’t see this as being right-wing, I see it as it being a reality we need to face.

    I’ll even share a detail about my general political views, out of all ideologies, I strongly believe that Social Democracy is the best, as it combined a strong government with a regulated free market.

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      12 days ago

      Friend, you need to understand: USA could turn off your F-35.

      Simply, you aren’t prepared for USA turning around.

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        12 days ago

        No they can’t.

        Sweden doesn’t have F-35’s.

        Neither does France.

        Europe as a whole also have plenty of Eurofighters.

        The US hasn’t really fought any nation with comparable tech and infrastructure since WWII.

        I don’t think they’ll have an easy time doing that.

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      19 days ago

      I’ll even share a detail about my general political views, out of all ideologies, I strongly believe that Social Democracy is the best

      Have you lived in Europe for the past 20 years? European “Social” “Democracy” has led only to the destruction of welfare state, worker rights, increasing of retirement age, and collapse of salaries, and whoever tries to deviate from that by being further left (Syriza, Podemos, LFI) gets couped out of power, whereas far right governments rule without issues in half of the continent

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        19 days ago

        I am living in Sweden, I have done so for the last 38 year after being born.

        I have witnessed the all of that.

        I stand by what I said, including the part of regulated free markets which you didn’t bring up.

        I absolutely disagree with how Socialdemokraterna moved away from the ideology of Social democracy.

        However, this does not change my views of the ideology, only the politicians who has failed it.

        Social democracy requires strong leaders who can withstand trends pulling in either direction.

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          19 days ago

          “I’ve seen with my own eyes social democracy failing simultaneously everywhere in Europe and ruined millions of lives. However, I still support it”.

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            19 days ago

            No, I have not seen social democracy failing, I have seen politicians failing to uphold social democracy.

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              12 days ago

              That’s the problem: they only need to buy your politicians with many Swedish kronas.

              Do you believe a so fragile system is right?

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                12 days ago

                I never said that I believe social democracy is a strong political system, I said that I believe it is the best ideology, meaning that I believe we should keep working to persue it, societies will move to far right, and too far left, regardless, it is a goal we should keep working towards.

                I see it as kinda like a compass, regardless of how you turn it, the arrow always point to the magnetic north.

                Regardless of what happens to society, we should always have an idea of our goal.

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              Politicians in every European country’s socialdemocrat party have failed social democracy, seems to me like there’s something in common, maybe the system fucking sucks? And when a new leftist party rises to fight against that, it gets destroyed institutionally, either through removal of government agency by EU (Syriza in Greece), by refusal to place them in government despite majority (LFI in France), or outright fabrications of false funding from Venezuela by the police apparatus (Podemos in Spain)

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                  18 days ago

                  Supporting leftist antimilitarism isn’t supporting Russia. This is literally what the SPD said in 1914 to support the war budgets for WW1, and this ended in Nazism

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                    18 days ago

                    Sure if you want to ignore everything else, then you’re right. In any case right now if Europe disarms russia would follow in hitlers footsteps and take over Europe