Just another reminder that being a Nazi is now acceptable political beliefs to MAGA

Edit: now $28K

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    https://nriglobe.com/news/global-nri-news/nri-commentator-pinesap-fired-after-defending-fascism-in-viral-jubilee-debate-with-mehdi-hasan/

    The Jubilee episode pitted British-American journalist Mehdi Hasan, renowned for his incisive debating style, against 20 self-proclaimed far-right conservatives, including Estelle. The discussion tackled divisive issues such as U.S. immigration policies, President Donald Trump’s leadership, the role of the U.S. Constitution, and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Estelle, using his online persona “Pinesap,” emerged as a lightning rod when he unapologetically embraced fascist ideologies during a tense exchange with Hasan.

    Estelle further advocated for autocracy over democracy, arguing that the U.S. Constitution should be amended or ignored when it “fails to serve us.” When challenged on whether Democrats could similarly disregard the Constitution, he replied, “Absolutely not,” exposing inconsistencies in his stance. His comments, coupled with his refusal to unequivocally condemn antisemitism, fueled widespread condemnation online, particularly among NRI communities who viewed his rhetoric as a betrayal of shared values.

    In the wake of the episode, Estelle announced on X, under the handle @FeelsGuy2003, that he had been fired from his role at VeUP Ltd, a tech firm with operations in the U.S., UK, Europe, and the Middle East. Claiming his termination was due to “political discrimination,” he launched a GiveSendGo fundraiser to support himself, alleging financial hardship. However, investigations by online sleuths have cast doubt on his narrative. A Threads post alleged that Estelle’s employment history was fabricated, with no verifiable evidence of his role at VeUP Ltd. The post further linked him to white nationalist Nick Fuentes’ network since 2022 and a fringe group dubbed the “Remilia cult,” purportedly connected to Elon Musk under the alias “Timeless Martian.” These unverified claims have intensified scrutiny of Estelle’s motives

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    That crowd let him go for so long before flagging him out. The dude who started to think that maybe Mehdi had a point got yanked real fast.

    Nazi support got laughs and side eyes, the visage of learning and thought got immediate red flags.

    Thought termination is more of a reflex to these right-wingers.

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      “It’s too hard to contemplate ideas that challenge my world-view. Guess I’ll just carry on being a piece of shit!”

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        More than that: someone else contemplating ideas is something to silenced and stopped. It isn’t enough to just be a piece of shit: others must be kept shitty.

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          They aren’t that intellectual about it though, it’s just them seeing someone losing and ending their time for sucking. You give a lot of credit.

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      They did this on the 1 doctor vs 20 anti vaxxers. People voice their concerns and something that happened to their coworkers father in law and then they get voted out

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    Insane that every time one of these fuckers gets punished their fellow bigots give them free tens of thousands of dollars.

    15k is more than I have ever had at a single point working my entire adult life full time, and he got it for free for being a waste of life.

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        At this point I believe we really, genuinely should. The only way we stop this cancerous spread of assholes being supported by wealthier assholes is by making them doubt the legitimacy of the system.

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        Make a bullshit post claiming you are being canceled by the left for calling for your black dog by name in your neighborhood (just so happens you named him the N word), have your friends post replies with some hate aimed at you, screen shot it and post on go fund me saying you can’t find work now, link it on r/conservatives and collect your vacation fund.

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      As someone who has lost everything in life a couple times over and has been to the bottom of abject poverty and climbed out of the pit slowly, and then had to spend life-savings on health problems and now will NEVER retire…

      Yeah, I think we need to do something about this. These monsters have no problem making a nazi wealthy for doing absolutely nothing but would rather see their entire communities burn than see a penny of their tax money help homeless or poor families.

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      Reminds me of that joke

      • “omg I was fired because of my political beleifs”
      • “oh no, what beleifs?”
      • “right wing”
      • “like lowering taxes? Reducing the deficit? Family values?”
      • “no…”
      • “which ones?”
      • “you know which ones…”
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    Oh no, he gets to experience what many others have been experiencing their entire lives.

    I work at a company where coworkers have joked about building drones to spray pepper gas at protestors. I let the joke land, smile politely, and move on.

    I’m an atheist and have never mentioned this fact to the guy who hired me, because he’s very religious and wouldn’t have hired me.

    I’m poly and I don’t talk about my relationships, because they’d probably fire me at some point due to “a bad cultural fit.”

    There are only two other liberals at my company- one of them is doing the slow lefty dance that you do when you work in the deep south. You watch people’s reactions as different topics come up in conversation, you make little jokes that can be taken multiple ways, and you slowly open up to the people that you’re absolutely certain you can speak to safely.

    The other is the daughter of the COO. She can wear her hair shaved up the side, or put a rainbow pin on her laptop bag. My lefty dance partner and I have to wear polos and conservative hair styles.

    So, in conclusion, go fuck yourself.

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    That episode was fucking crazy. The dude in the pic straight up said he was a fascist. Another guy said that the first white people to come here and their descendants are native americans.

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    “Traditional right wing political views” == “autocracy”. His words. He wants a fascist dictatorship and the elimination of free speech. Again, his words. I’m shocked that his employer didn’t want to continue associating their company name with him.

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    Maybe he can get a job at jubilee, their staff apparently fills in when they can’t find enough right wing openly neo-nazi trolls

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      I noticed a Jubilee thumbnail sometime in the last year, and seeing the total lack of congruence between their tagline and titles, immediately came to the conclusion that it’s right wing rage bait propaganda for liberals. All of the clips I’ve seen have only proven that.

      It’s a fuckin clown world circus, and I’ll never give them views.

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        They are great at distributing selective edits of all their episodes to right, middle and left, each of which are presented with radically different takes on how the episode unfolded and who “won.”

        It’s more mindless, deeply unserious griftonomics being fueled far more by the right and reactionaries than making any attempt to provide viewers with a coherent narrative or values.

        I would be happy to never see another Jubilee clip. I think a few people did fantastic on there, even unedited, like Mehdi or Sam Seder, but I much rather see either of them in an actual debate or even just delivering essay materials or commentary where they can get credit for how they actually changed minds or challenged narratives. (Not that I think debate even exists as a concept anymore, but anything is better than this bad-faith circus.)

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    Unfortunately voicing fully legal traditional right wing views results in real consequences.

    Closer but no banana.

    Hate speech might be legal but it does have real world consequence.

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    Maybe I should stage a video with a Black friend to scream racist obscenities at their child while a third friend records and shouts me down. Then it can go viral and we can split a few hundred thousands dollars between us when I post a funding round claiming to be the victim.

    Not really. I’m just commenting on the ludicrousness of this racket.

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      I’m honestly tempted. I know someone that does movie masks like mrs doubtfire which has led me to have a bit of a fixation on them but I know a few people that would be up for doing one or two of these a month

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    Man… We need to start contacting these shithead’s local bishops and petition them for excommunication. Honestly not a good look for the Catholic church to be primarily associated with pedophillia and neo-nazi. Maybe the new pope being from Burger Land will motivate them to clean up their American franchise?

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    Expressing Nazi/Autocracy views from a position of influence should be illegal. Simple as that. He’s getting off pretty easy here.

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      At the same time, I think the donations made him more money that I make in a year (I’m not from the us so I’d need to do a few conversions to make sure)

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      Yea, getting over $15k for making up a story about getting fired from a job he didn’t actually have sure is getting “rekt”. 🙄

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    I hate that we keep rolling the dice on platforming these out-and-about fascists.

    I understand that there are some that will be so disgusted with seeing this spoken out-loud that they’ll solidify their resistance to fascism, but there’s always this small chance that there will be more people attracted to fascist political movements than repelled from them.

    I don’t feel like I have a good handle on the overall sentiment in reactionary-coded spaces to say for sure, but jesus christ does it make me nervous whenever I see these clips go viral.

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      This is how I feel about all the subreddits and communities here that aim to post right wing content to either make fun of, get the word out, or just display the depravity of the right wing. Just because you added a title that’s mocking a fascist tweet, and the community is speaking out against it in the comments, doesn’t change the fact that you’re increasing the spread of filth. That post is getting more and more eyes on it than it would have if nobody had engaged with it at all. We’re spreading their propaganda for them.

      They do this shit to “trigger the libs” and seeing their racist diatribes being spread on social media is exactly what they want. Hell plenty of news and media broadcasters do this too. Twitter posts are referenced in articles and on TV all the time.

      I get it, we need to be aware of these freaks and stand up against it, but I’m conflicted because we’re inadvertently helping them reach a larger audience.

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    I’m sure the Trump administration is trying to figure out a role they can hire him for. “Hey, we hired another literal nazi” would be a great distraction from the Epstein business.