I’ve sadly ran into this kind of thing before.
I’ll never forget the assholes I found on Reddit who tried to say that it’s wrong to push for LGBT Rights especially outside of the US because it was “Pushing Western Values where they don’t belong, like a colonizer!”
These people will come up with any excuse to be dickbutts.
LGBT Rights are based and cool, and anyone who unironically uses the term “Biological Male” is not arguing in good faith
LGBT Rights are based and cool
depends, but in general they are
and anyone who unironically uses the term “Biological Male” is not arguing in good faith
I disagree on this
“biological male” is if anything bad description of reality. A trans woman who has been on hormone therapy for a couple of years is biologically closer to cisgender women than cisgender men. And even more so if they’ve had surgeries. But usually people who use that term don’t care and lump everyone who was assigned male at birth into that category.
I could attribute this term to ignorance because it sounds reasonable, but it’s far too often used to exclude trans women from spaces that other women belong
That’s a beautiful way of seeing it indeed, you convinced me
My point was just to say that in very specific cases it can be used to make it clear that the person is born male but I guess the cisgender and transgender terms are now relatively well known
It’s still easier to explain some things with this word, but I wouldn’t use it socially of course
You nailed the problem: it is often used for bad reasons and thus people categorize people saying this word, which is highly invalid imo and shouldn’t be criminalized this way when the context is appropriate
But yea, now even scientific literature pretty much abandoned this word
“If the capitalists are ok with something it must be bad”
Classic
Same reasoning that leads to people praising authoritarian regimes like China and Russia.
I mean…
Maybe we can examine issues on their own merits rather than trying to squeeze every round peg into the class struggle square hole?
Pretty much the only other time I have seen any transphobia on Lemmy is from a .ml user who called someone a chaser for saying they were married to a femboy. These people don’t actually care about LGBT issues - they are just trolls who use it as a cudgel when it is convenient.
Can someone explain to someone out of the loop what’s transphobic about his post?
Now that it’s been explained to you, can you explain to us what was so hard to understand that you needed it explained to you?
Saying that the topic of “caring about transgender and LGBT issues” is promoted by the bourgeois is clearly not intended to indicate they respect those communities concerns.
The “men in women’s sports” thing is just straight up transphobic, sexist misinformation.
It shouldn’t need to be explained, but using “trans” as a label to attack a woman to delegitimize her sporting victory is just a hot mess of issues.The “men in women’s sports” thing is just straight up transphobic, sexist misinformation.
Eh, yes and no
The subject is still debated, and there’s no clear scientific consensus, even though the lemmy community will make you believe so
There is absolutely scientific consensus. Trans females do not perform as physically as well as males. It is pure fragile masculinity (read weak baby bitch boi) behavior to hate on trans people in sports.
Why do you support weak baby bitches?
Fuck off conservative troll.
Fuck off ragebaiter?
I mean in just a couple of searches you find out that I’m not wrong
Maybe one day you’ll learn that insulting other people that don’t agree with you isn’t the way
And apparently I’m conservative now. Didn’t know you knew my voting opinions… which you got wrong
Coming into a year old thread to stir shit up is basically the definition of trolling. Doing so in favor of the argument that there’s a plague of men pretending to be women to take over women’s sports is a conservative talking point.
Arguing that there’s scientific uncertainty about how often this is coming up or if the boxer is actually a secret man is… Well I hope you’re trolling, otherwise you’re a bad person.So explain to me how telling you to fuck off is “ragebait”?
Maybe one day you’ll learn that insulting other people that don’t agree with you isn’t the way
Maybe one day you’ll realize that no one cares about your opinion on “the way”.
I went and read the context behind this one. Posting just this comment alone is abit disingenuous. I didnt see any phobias there except maybe the fear of the ruling class in society… Seems that dude was just talking frankly and making observations about what appears to be a contradiction in the original posters logic
full poat: https://lemmy.world/comment/11541457
That context doesn’t actually change the reading of the message as far as I can see.
I’m not sure why the original poster brought economic politics into it, but the best possible reading of “where are these ‘transphobes’ and why do they need ‘rooting out’” is only neutral, and none of it offsets the weird Olympic sports thing.
So … Yay for context, but nothing disingenuous about this post as far as I can see.
Clearly choosing to not include this in order to keep bashing on. Maybe spez is a better option for you?
He’s still doubling down and recently said he has no need to apologize or learn better because “I can never make anyone happy no matter what they make me say, I have work to do.”
If you really are concerned perhaps fork it then ? If the purity tests are not good enough for you to use a service, what do you use , I would love to get a list. Or is it just for Foss projects that’s provided for free you have the purity tests for?
I use GOS , and did so when it was a really toxic community a few years back.
linux is also problematic here and there. Wikipedia I just donated to also. Hell I don’t think there’s a single project other than my own small scripts I use that would pass my own purity tests.
Feels like a good psyop from anyone if you want to damage Lemmy and Foss competition in my meaning.
Or is it just for Foss projects that’s provided for free you have the purity tests for?
I have “purity tests” of:
- Don’t be an asshole to minorities
- Don’t justify being an asshole to minorities.
So far it works pretty well. I don’t see a reason to be friends with or use products made by such people.
linux is also problematic here and there. Wikipedia I just donated to also. Hell I don’t think there’s a single project other than my own small scripts I use that would pass my own purity tests.
What has Linux had issues with, along with Wikipedia? I can’t think of anything where major Linux devs have advocated for harming groups. If anything, torvalds hates those kinds of people.
Feels like a good psyop from anyone if you want to damage Lemmy and Foss competition in my meaning.
The psyop of “I don’t wanna give money to people who harm my friends”? Sure dude.
have “purity tests” of:
- Don’t be an asshole to minorities
- Don’t justify being an asshole to minorities.
No you don’t. Or at least your fine with the fails. otherwise you wouldn’t be able to comment here. Or do you believe there are no really shitty person’s in tech?
What has Linux had issues with, along with Wikipedia? I can’t think of anything where major Linux devs have advocated for harming groups. If anything, torvalds hates those kinds of people
Lol if you haven’t seen the issues with toxic tech communities online you must have kept your eyes closed very hard.
By your own standards not “harming people” is quite far from the I want shit for free but won’t pay because o don’t like a dude developing the free stuff I use.
The psyop of “I don’t wanna give money to people who harm my friends”? Sure dude.
Well you do. Or are you living in a hut in the forest sending smoke signals to get your comment here?
Maybe don’t let perfect get in the way of good?
Not being transphobic isn’t a purity test
So you wrote this comment on a device completely void of any involvement of any transphobes? How do you check that? Or is it just though scrutiny for services you get free?
Can you explain what you mean?
Even if criticism can be made, I mean it’s kinda sus to attack the development of Lemmy. I can find a bunch of really bad people you have paid money to. Maybe stop giving them money instead? but here we are getting nothing done. To quote:
So you want people to suck it up and donate?
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