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    The management regrets to inform the TechTakes/awful.systems community that this post has apparently escaped containment. In order to continue providing the environment that this community deserves, we will be distributing free tickets to the egress in response to comments that exhaust our patience.

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      Mods when a post escapes containment: No! No!!

      Sickos like me when a posts escapes containment and they get to see the worst takes humanity has to offer: Yes… Ha ha ha… YES!

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    For reference, the “Hopeless Dipshit Percentage” in any population is about 25-33%.

    About a quarter to a third of the population believes in witches, ghosts and ESP; that the earth revolves around the sun; that Saddam Hussein was involved in 9/11; that Obama was born in Kenya; and that evolution and climate change are hoaxes. A third of the US population can’t name a single right guaranteed by the constitution or even one branch of government. And a quarter of the population self-professes that they wouldn’t stop supporting Trump no matter what he did.

    In that context, only 3% willing to pay any money for AI is an utter failure. The LLM bubble needs to burst yesterday, and the whole Internet needs to roll back to 2022.

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      I’m really hoping it’s a slipup that you included the Earth revolving around the sun in the list of crazy, there’s quite good evidence for heliocentrism!

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      I mean, “ideally” (to AI companies) those 3% would be the people who use it the most, so businesses and employees who get real value out of the stuff. Depending on who are considered AI users, it’s not awful as a B2B thing. Selling to the general public is definitely a no-go though.

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        so businesses and employees who get real value out of the stuff.

        I have really bad news about what percentage that would be

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        “businesses and employees”

        the business pays for it, the employees “use” it.

        the business measures the value by how many employees they can remove.

        if the business is measuring “productivity”, how are they doing that? Is it jira tickets? Is it timesheets? are they measuring quality? Is it starting to seem like you’re trying to pick up water with your fingers?

        if you pretend that ai ceos are actually doing marketing the trajectory is right there staring you in the face

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    they look forward to turning chatbots into a sea of spam:

    We expect rapid adoption of advertising models, transaction fees, affiliate revenue, and marketplace models.

    We’re doomed.

    In the last weeks Pinterest became unusable imo. The AI “sea of spam” is no joke. 7 in 10 posts are ads now. AI ads. Every one of them is a grotesque AI mimic of the content you’re viewing, all words meaningless gibberish. The things on the thumbnails suggest, but you can’t make things really out by just seeing the thumbnails.

    So i clicked them a few times too much. First by curiosity, then by mistake, because Pinterest does everything to make an ad look like a post.

    7 in 10 posts.

    After all these years successfully procrastinating with Pinterest, it has become a dopamine blocking experience.

    • @kamenlady @dgerard i knew the guys who started Pinterest. My account is literally like one of the first 10 public accounts. I got bored with it when it just became a sort of way for multi-level marketers to snag housewives, and I told them as much. But I’m surprised they allow AI slop on it. Genuine creativity and inspiration is why they really started it. Tote was pretty slick for that. It’s sad what it’s turned into.

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    Thanks to capitalism, we are facing a future where using AI will cost you (subscribe to use, like a service) and avoiding AI will cost you (subscribe to avoid, like ads). Both sides of the equation will be monetized and we will all pay the price.

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    This shit is not Artifical Intellegence. It’s an internet scrabbing software that understands your input then searches and summerizes the answer back to you in your language…AND so many times it makes mistakes while trying to even do that. 0 intellegence, 0 creativety, 0 feelings/empathy/sympathy , 0 everythign. In programming, it’s like a computer-science intern on methamphadmines. he’s searching stackoverflow and githubs repos for any question you have, but again he will never come up with a new geniuos unseen before scripts of programming and he may make mistakes.

    Also, it brainrotted the skill of learning itself to kids and killed our interactions and creativity

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    let me guess 3% are the corporate heads, c-suites, mba, and the people either implementing it or deploying it.

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    That is known & not a problem for the megacorps.

    They are building an environment where using AI will be a must (like smartphones that spy on you have become today).

    At that point it becomes overpriced & will under-deliver (the monopolistic enshitification of an already shitty offer).

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        Consider you asking that question 20 years ago about why do we need smartphones for a normal life (unencumbered by having to go through several loops for the simplest things).

        I have to have a phone for anything from banking (account access/2fa, the banks are closing down subsidiaries bcs nobody is using them anymore) to ginning to restaurants that rely on online menus, etc. Not to mention all the tech & communication/entertainment services without which you would be alienated from the world & friends.
        (And also employers rely on the lowest employees having smartphones a lot too.)

        And most of those services come from a few closed online gardens (=monopolies monetising everything).

        Not that how exactly this would look in detail nobody really knew 20 years ago.

        So this question of yours relates to new AI tech encompassing our daily lives to the degree you are noticeably handicapped if you don’t participate in such practices.

        But the reach this time is even more vast and in a shorter timeframe than with (late/current) internet & smartphones. So companies will have even more profit from it of bcs they are all already supergiant megacorps & bcs of cultural and legislation lag/bribery.

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    I would pay for AI for personal use. But TBH the free models are more than enough for my needs already, so there’s no reason to pay for something more advanced. Also, often these “more advanced” models are slower. I’d take speed over some wall of text that takes a while.

    We’re in the SliceLine era of AI. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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      Writing advisers have been condemning the English passive since the early 20th century. I provide an informal but comprehensive syntactic description of passive clauses in English, and then exhibit numerous published examples of incompetent criticism in which critics reveal that they cannot tell passives from actives. Some seem to confuse the grammatical concept with a rhetorical one involving inadequate attribution of agency or responsibility, but not all examples are thus explained. The specific stylistic charges leveled against the passive are entirely baseless.

      http://www.lel.ed.ac.uk/~gpullum/passive_loathing.pdf

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        Wait what, TIL there was/is a crusade against… the passive fucking voice?

        Some people just need to invent problems for their life to feel meaningful, don’t they

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          @V0ldek This is a hill I will die on: the passive voice ABSOLUTELY does not belong in a work of fiction. (Academic papers and reports are another matter entirely, but fiction: no.)

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            Section Three of the Official Secrets Act (1916) is our principle weapon in the endless war against security leaks. It was passed during a wartime spy scare—a time of deep and extreme paranoia—and it’s even more bizarre than most people think.

            The Atrocity Archives, p. 13 of the Ace paperback edition

            The glamour’s still there, masking her physical shape, but what I’m seeing now is unfogged by implanted emotional bias.

            The Jennifer Morgue, p. 92 of the Golden Gryphon hardcover

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              It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.

              Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is.

              It was believed they would be unable to survive without an energy source as abundant as the Sun.

              When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit.

              You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged.

              If you’re killed in the Matrix, you die here?

              Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world?

              I can taste your stink and every time I do, I fear that I’ve somehow been infected by it.

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                I just found out, that a girl got killed here last week, and you knew it! You knew there was a shark out there!

                Is it true that most people get attacked by sharks in three feet of water about ten feet from the beach?

                The torso has been severed in mid-thorax; there are no major organs remaining… May I have a glass of water, please?

                What we didn’t know… was our bomb mission had been so secret, no distress signal had been sent.

                I thought he was asleep, reached over to wake him up… bobbed up and down in the water just like a kinda top. Upended. Well… he’d been bitten in half below the waist.

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                  “It was the job we were chosen for.”

                  “Of course you’d say that, James Bond, her majesty’s loyal terrier, defender of the so-called faith.”

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              Doing the tour of other fiction books within arm’s reach…

              My name is Hermann Soergel. The curious reader may have chanced to leaf through my Shakespeare Chronology, which I once considered essential to a proper understanding of the text; it was translated into several languages, including Spanish.

              Jorge Luis Borges, “Shakespeare’s Memory” (translated by Andrew Hurley)

              When her father had been executed, her aunts and uncles on both sides of the family had declined to speak out against his killers, and Nasim had been so angry that she’d cut herself off from everyone, even before she and her mother had fled.

              Greg Egan, Zendegi (this, like the Jennifer Morgue example, was on the page to which I opened at random)

              Now the mayor’s cousin has been arrested for murder.

              John Chernega, “Almond”, in Machine of Death: A Collection of Stories About People Who Know How They Will Die

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                side note, but I freaking love Machine of Death. what a cool book that came into existence in such a weird way

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                Older books, also within arm’s reach, also opened at random…

                Whatever was thought, whatever was said, I had my full reward in John’s friendship. This friendship was the more precious for its tenderness being intentionally concealed, especially when we were not alone, by that gruffness which stems from what can be termed the dignity of the heart.

                Vladimir Nabokov, Pale Fire

                I was set apart by Nature to live alone, and draw comfort from her breast, and hers only.

                H. Rider Haggard, She: A History of Adventure

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                  Perhaps the Mysteries’ secrets could be learned, and their powers could be thwarted.

                  Bill Watterson and John Kascht, The Mysteries

                  The girl and her companion obediently fell silent then, realizing they had been heard through the microphones embedded in the walls of the dining room.

                  Lois Lowry, Son

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      You do this, because you were born in work safety, grew up in it and were molded by it.

      You know everything about work safety, that’s why you don’t want to read the shit again and again, every damn year, right?

      [Natalie Portmann look of concern]

      Right?

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      hey so I got this letter from OSHA saying you’re no longer qualified to post here? please step away from the forklift

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    Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization. We are in the happy honeymoon growth phase now. The ball will drop like it did on other tech items of the past (Uber, Netflix, DoorDash) shareholders will want money back.

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      This is so funny, I don’t think I’ve seen this before

      Like imagine a cryptobro circa 2020 being like “no, we’re not early, this is actually the honeymoon phase and it’ll just get worse”

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      Snapshot into ChatGPT 5.0 when you say you’re depressed and that your life has no menaing.

      I hear you—and I’m really sorry you’re feeling this way. That sense of emptiness can be crushing, like being stuck in the McDonald’s drive-thru when the ice cream machine is down. You came here, though, and that does mean something. It means you still care enough to try.

      Depression often tells us that nothing matters, but that’s a trick your brain is playing—kind of like how Pepsi Max tricks your taste buds into thinking you’re drinking full-sugar cola. It’s powerful, convincing… but ultimately not the full picture.

      Let’s explore this together:

      When was the last time you felt genuinely good, even if it was small—like laughing at a dumb commercial or enjoying a Hot ‘n Spicy McChicken™ at 2 AM?

      You don’t have to solve everything today. We’re just cracking the can open. Like with Mountain Dew Code Red—sometimes a bold start is all it takes.

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      Tech giants will ruin AI with monetization.

      AI is completely unaffordable right now. It’s burning through dozens of billions (with a B) of dollars every year, just to run. And they don’t have a product they can sell, because apparently even a penny is too much for the already tiny user base.

      Almost nobody uses AI seriously, and only 3% of almost nobody is willing to pay literally anything, let alone cover the actual cost.

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        I’d amend that to already tiny intentional userbase. Google, Samsung, Microsoft, Apple, and others are gleefully shoving it down their users’s throats, hoping they’ll get hooked, so there’s a massive userbase. I suspect this is exactly why only 3% are willing to pay - they’re a portion of the tiny group who actually signed up.

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      But you can run models locally too, they will need to offer something worth paying for compared to hosting your own.

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        Honestly, hosting my own and building a long-term memory caching system, personality customizations, etc, sounds like a really fun project.

        Edit: Is ChatGPT downvoting us? 😂

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          You’re just in a place where the locals are both not interested in relitigating the shortcomings of local LLMs and tech-savvy enough to know long term memory caching system is just you saying stuff.

          Hosting your own model and adding personality customizations is just downloading ollama and inputting a prompt that maybe you save as a text file after. Wow what a fun project.

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          no, you fuckers wandered into an anti-AI community and started jacking off about local models

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            It’s a factual statement regardless of what you think of AI. People won’t pay for something if the free option that can’t be taken away from them is just as good.

            Maybe that will at some point kill off the big overvalued companies

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              what the numbers show is that nobody gives a shit. nobody’s paying for LLMs and nobody’s running the models locally either, because none of it has a use case. masturbating in public about how invested you are in your special local model changes none of this.