Saw this recently and thought it was interesting. Jellico, the character, was a way to justify changes the cast wanted to make on the show.

Other folks might know this already, but it was new to me. 🖖

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    just for the record if you’re running a 24/7 outfit with a an A/B, C/D shift rotation actually kinda makes sense. Three days on for 12 hour shifts, 4 days off, then you flip that with 4 days on and three days off. Though, I’d assume they would be running on a time system similar to submarines.

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      I thought the 3/4 shift rotation meant how many shifts in a 24-hr period. That there were simply 3 shifts of 8 hours each, and when they changed it to 4 shift rotation the shifts got reduced to 6 hours lengths. That made sense to me at the time since it meant the crews would be cycling out a little more often so the people at their posts were a little more rested and relaxed

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        Shorter shifts can mean more rested people, but it can also mean more handoffs between this shift and next shift, which means more disruptions and more opportunities for miscommunication and mistakes. I hear this is why nurses have such long shifts: because it’s been shown that patients actually die abnormally often around shift changes.

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          so the continuity of care does play a role in that. But it’s also because hospitals are cheap bastards and longer shifts reduces staffing requirements.

          a traditional 5-day work week with 3 shifts per day, on a 24/7 operational time results in 6 full shifts plus staffing for covering absences. A 12 hour shift a/b, c/d rotation has four full shifts plus coverage, just as an example.

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            15 days ago

            I didn’t understand the math in your second paragraph. Could you explain again? I don’t have any prior familiarity with shift planning.

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              I’m going to use a 24 clock here, just to make it a bit more obvious. (am/pm is annoying on a 24 hour rotation.)

              most place use something like a 09:00-17:00 shift. (or 07:00-15:00, etc.) “full time” is 40 hours a week in the US, and we get there working five days a week (monday through friday). For types of jobs that go 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, that falls into three shifts- First shift starts ant 09:00, second at 17:00, and third shift starts at 01:00

              for every position, if you want round-the clock coverage, Monday through Friday, you typically have one full time person for each shift. 3 people. You then have shifts on the weekends- Saturday and Sunday; because overtime is a big no-no; that’s another 3 people. So for a single position, working “typical” 8 hour shift rotations, you’re going to need 6 people. (and, 3 of them are going to have high turn over as they move into positions that are full time. which can be quite problematic.)

              one way of doing things differently is to have four shifts that are 12 hours long. A/B and C/D are paired together. A and C are both day shift and B and D are night shift. the two pairs alternate between 3 days on and 4 days off, and 4 days on and three days off.

              because there’s no part-timers on the payroll, it reduces overall turnover, and the contingent costs associated with onboarding. you’ve also cut your on-going continuing education costs by a third. when you’re talking across hundreds of nurses, that actually adds up enough to justify the 4 hours of overtime everyone gets. But even that can be avoided- many places that technically have a ‘you must be paid overtime’ frequently have exceptions for 12 hour shift rotations. (which generate an extra 4 hours of overtime every two weeks, in this example)

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        There is an insane amount of psychology involved in a USN’s submarine watch rotation. A large part of it is designed to keep people busy (or sleeping) so they’re not thinking about how much the world wants them dead for thinking it’s a good idea to float around crushing pressure of the depths in what is basically a giant sardine can.

        (and lets be honest, we all have a vested interest in them not going insane from huffing their own farts.)