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    13 days ago

    They may have been based on Instruct. It left such a bad impression, I didn’t play around with them much. Good to know for the future, though. I haven’t used DRY or mirostat really in the past, but I’ll try them next time I look at the Qwen3s.

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      13 days ago

      Honestly I don’t use Qwen3 instruct unless it’s for code or “logic.” Even the 32B is soo dry and focused on that, and countering it with sampling dumbs it down.

      Not sure if it’s too big, but I have been super impressed with Jamba 52B. It knows tons of fiction trivia and writing styles for such a “small” model, though I haven’t tried to manipulate its prompt for writing yet. And it’s an MoE model like A3B.

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        2 days ago

        Interesting. I hadn’t heard of this one before, but the design sounds innovative. The biggest I run is 35B or 7x8B, but I’ll have to try and check it out.

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          Jamba is a killer model flying under the radar, though it does have a quirk I more recently discovered: no prompt caching in llama.cpp (yet).

          If you have a 24GB GPU you can cram Nemotron 49B in it with no offloading, including the new reasoning version. It’s a monster at STEM stuff, and I can upload my special quantization (3bpw, with 4bpw KV heads, exllamav3) if you ask.

          Qwen 30B coder is ridiculously fast for how smart it is at coding, just came out today…

          TBH the last week or two has been nuts with new releases.

          But FYI if you are looking for pure prose quality, I still use EVA Gutenberg 32B (based on Qwen 2.5 base) and Jonboro’s brand new QWQ 32B fine tune, as new models have not surpassed them IMO. But for creative writing, I tend to write novel style instead of multi turn, so YMMV.

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            11 hours ago

            I only have a 16GB card, and my CPU is new enough that it’s better to offload some layers of all but 7-8B models, so I haven’t tried exllama, but you’re making me think I should, if only for comparison.

            I like Qwen 2.5 based models in the 14B size range, but I don’t think I tried the bigger ones. I tried the QWQ and didn’t really like it, but I haven’t seen this new one. You’ve given me a whole list of things to try, so thanks.

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              16GB

              Is it 3000 series or newer?

              If so, with exllamav3, you can squeeze 32Bs in that 16GB card with relatively little loss. For instance: https://huggingface.co/turboderp/EXAONE-4.0-32B-exl3/tree/3.0bpw

              The 3bpw weights are 13 GB, say another 1.5GB for some q5_q4 context, and you are looking at 14.5GB-15GB or so. It will be tight, but it will be leagues smarter than 14Bs.

              24B Mistral models will fit much more easily. No need to CPU offload those on a 16GB card, you just need to be careful with your settings.