Ok, on a thread about how psychiatric hospitals are getting gobbled up by private equity, and treatment standards are plummetting, I say, that if you actually wanna stop this, you have to overthrow the government and abolish corporations, otherwise, you’re complicit.

Unfortunately, I did not have the opportunity to get into a discussion about tacit vs explicit consent to be governed, or anything like that.

Here’s the post url again:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/46618629

But uh, yeah, jawbone all you like, don’t change nothin’ in a fascist state.

So, then after a brief exchange, where I remind pele that his retort he tried on me last time I said something like that of ‘Where are you from / You’re not American’, I remind him of the last time we danced that dance.

Here’s that older exchange, for context:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/45775934/20923933

He then thanks me for that reminder, deletes my original comment, bans me from his comm.

Problem: He banned me for “rule 5, promoting violence”.

Here’s rule 5 on the sidebar:

Here’s the instance rules:

Nothing about advocating violence.

I would also go so far as to say that uh, he intervened and made an uncivil comment.

… Am I… missing some hidden rules… somewhere?

Also… did I explicitly promote violence?

By saying:

“Overthrow the government. Abolish corporations.”

???

Is it impossible to do many nonviolent things to pressure a regime to change, a major policy to be reworked, with a sufficient amount of people?

Anyway, yep, there we go, I submit this to the evaluation of fellow m@teys and any other interested passersby.

bonus

pele, if you show up here, I Iiterally do not care what you have to say, I have blocked you to improve my lemmy experience.

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    You stated first that overthrowing a government isn’t violent and is akin to firing someone, and then later agreed that overthrowing a government is usually violent.

    Since you insist on being spoon fed: Overthrowing the government is not violent. A [state] government’s reaction to not being followed by the people is usually violent. I want to think you can understand the difference and implications of this, but at this point, I doubt it. If your argument is “let’s never overthrow governments, because they retaliate violently”, then you’re effectively a willing fascist collaborator.

    And if you were, for reasons unfathomable, talking about a journalist outside Nazi Germany, why? That’s a blatant false equivalency.

    Yes, I was in fact referring to someone outside Nazi Germany which is why I chose my words very carefully, and which person you would clearly praise being silenced from a public forum for asking to overthrow Nazi Germany. It is not a false equivalency. It’s exactly analogous what you’re going right now.

    I have very clearly stated that I’m talking about someone who could be realistically targeted for their opinions, a position influenced by the history you’re trying to bastardize.

    What? You are claiming you are in fact trying to protect @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com from retaliation for posting their opinion in a public forum? I repeat: Are you for real?

    Whee, doggy! Now that’s a straw man!

    That’s the exact implication of your statements until this point.

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      Either your literacy or your morality needs work, because you have misrepresented or misunderstood every single thing I have said from the beginning. I’m tired of this. It’s ridiculous. I can’t argue against constant logical fallacies. Maybe tomorrow you’ll come back and see how “You are claiming you are in fact trying to protect @/sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com from retaliation for posting their opinion in a public forum?” was completely incorrect or how a forum host that could be touched by a fascist regime is different from an editor that can’t be. And maybe, just maybe, you’ll realize how shitty you’ve been accusing me of being a Nazi sympathizer because of the conclusions you’ve jumped to. But I don’t care anymore. I’m done. This is the most ridiculous argument I’ve ever had and I’ll have no further part.

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        Oh thank fuck, I was planning to disengage after this point because you’re incapable of expressing a clear opinion and your reading comprehension is clearly shot (not a call to violence btw)