• Susaga@sh.itjust.works
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    You responded to a 5 month old post and said it’s fine to shame men for not falling for toxic masculinity, using a gendered insult in the process. Your single comment was removed, and you decided this was a power trip worthy of posting here within the hour. YDI

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      How age is relevant, when reason are “rude, misogyny”.

      gendered insult

      I think it is your bias, have you ever heard person using word coward instead of pussy?

      So do you guys agree that all people who use word pussy for coward are misogynist?

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        Age is relevant because you were kicking up dust in an ancient thread, which is pretty rude of you. And yes, it’s casual misogyny. Nothing actively malicious, but still a problem. Except when you add in the “defending toxic masculinity” bit, which is actively malicious against acting “unmanly”.

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        So do you guys agree that all people who use word pussy for coward are misogynist?

        Yes. If you now know that it’s gendered language designed to say, “Haha, you’re soft and weak like a girl,” and you refuse to change, that makes you a misogynist.

        Take this hypothetical: Let’s say I was completely isolated from society. My parents taught me that using the N-word to refer to black people is okay. One day, I’m set free on my own. I use the N-word in casual conversation, but my friends correct me and say that it’s wrong and racist to use that word.

        I refuse to change my language, because, “I shouldn’t have to! It’s my right to use the language I want!” What does that make me? It makes me a racist.

        In the same way, your (or anyone’s) insistence upon clinging to the word “pussy” as an insult makes you a misogynist.

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          Is pussy in the meaning of coward related to woman genitals? I always thought it was from pussy as in kitten. It doesn’t really make sense if it’s from the vulva meaning.

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            That’s the funny thing about language. How words transform doesn’t always make sense. Virtually nobody who is a native speaker of English uses the word “pussy” to mean “cat/kitten,” anymore. It is almost exclusively used to mean a vulva, and whether it started as meaning a cat or not when used as an insult, I believe it no longer carries that same connotation of “cat” as its primary meaning.

            I would suspect, though this is just my guess, that you would be in the minority, today, for thinking that pussy being used as an insult refers to kittens. I agree that makes more logical sense, but language and idioms aren’t always logical.

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          Haha, you’re soft and weak like a girl

          So you are saying girls are and tend to be strong as men? Therefore it makes pussy bad word? Get hold of yourself delusional. you are swimming in bullshit & polluting others. There is reason word pussy got same meaning as “you’re soft and weak like a girl”, cause girls are weak. How can woman retaliate abuse of husband? So she endures. Have you ever saw men enduring same kind of abuse by other men?

          Your comparison is flawed. N word was never used to mean qualities like coward.

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            …cause girls are weak. How can woman retaliate abuse of husband? So she endures. Have you ever saw men enduring same kind of abuse by other men?

            Did you just wake up from 1925? You honestly think that women are just weak and men are just strong, and there’s nothing in between? And you think I’m delusional?

            Keep digging that hole. You’re only proving the point that YDI. You are a misogynist, and rather than learning from your mistake, you’re whining on the internet about how persecuted you are. Weak.

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    Because its association with vagina, so using it as an insult is akin to calling men “effeminate”. Calling them womanlike for supposedly being timid is insulting to women and therefore misogynist.

    Probably they are sexist if they think woman can not be unemotional, stoic, strong and courageous.

    🤣🤣 these attempts at defending bigoted insults by turning the accusations around are always pretty funny but this is twe most hamfisted attempt I’ve seen yet.

    Also how is unemotional a desirable quality in a person? Serial killer shit right there

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      English language is wonderful. Cunt means something else entirely. What other vagina derivate insults do you guys have?

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      Calling them womanlike for supposedly being timid is insulting to women and therefore misogynist.

      But this p word is always used like this.

      Why holy shit is not insult to religion? You are calling shit holy?

      Because its association with vagina

      Then solution to piss off misogynist is simple, call brave women dick. Bravo greeta thumber, you are real dick!

      Calling them womanlike for supposedly being timid is insulting to women and therefore misogynist.

      Hmm that as motive makes sense, but it is still unjust IMHO, which word you would have used instead? Coward? Gutless? P word is always used, never saw any other word used for this.

      these attempts at defending bigoted insults

      That looked insult to you, not me. I had no idea, tbh.

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        Take this as a learning experience to become familiar with non sexist insults. Coward and gutless would be perfectly suited alternatives. It’s the same principle as using “gay” as a pejorative towards a straight man. It’s only insulting if you think being gay is something bad, so that is the implication. Just because these words are commonly used as insults in society doesn’t mean they are not a form of commonplace bigotry.

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        But this p word is always used like this.

        By you.

        Why holy shit is not insult to religion? You are calling shit holy?

        “Religion” is not under attack at all. Quite the opposite.

        Then solution to piss off misogynist is simple, call brave women dick. Bravo greeta thumber, you are real dick!

        Ok you’re just a corny troll who doesn’t give a shit. So brave.

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          Religion is not under attack at all. Quite the opposite.

          you are just spreading your propaganda, I am talking about language. I hope these religious extremist people ban these words so you can experience unfairness of censor of language. They are not only fascist, look at mirror

          By you.

          Your famous & beloved person said it multiple times

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    Hmm, why don’t you look for something useful to do if performance is important to you? Not to be mean or anything, but I think this isn’t cutting it.

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          Or just use it as an opportunity to learn something, whatever it is. I think talking to people online is fine. You just gotta be aware of the circumstances and think about what you’re trying to achieve, every now and then.

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            Yes I agree… I don’t understand anti online sentiment by people online lol

            Fedi as far as social media goes is the best since you are talking to actual people about topics that provide some educational value

            Jerking corporate social media where you are being fed corporate sloop and regime propaganda… Obviously that different

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    Pussy word is used for men who lacks daring in reasonable situations do not measure up to the rapey, violent and/or generally vile standards of toxic masculine behaviour.

    FTFY.

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    Well, yes it’s ingrained misogyny, and it’s also ingrained into modern language. The mod can’t expect to force people to stop using a word they personally disagree with, especially if it’s normalised in the speaker’s world. Censorship of basic speech and expression is the reason some of us left Reddit ffs

    Edit: Read your comment. Your whole comment reads like a poor attempt at an argument which never existed.

    • Emotions are part of humanity and creatures with autonomy, to unconditionally stifle emotions is to reject the idea that you exist in any meaningful way.
    • No, it is never “right to shame others”.
    • You’ve perceived a decreased performance in what way?

    Sorry to check you like this, but some of the things you’ve stated don’t entirely align with my worldview. I am of the belief that all beings are valid and deserve, at the most basic level, a free life and general comfort. Ridiculing someone can negatively impact this, and as modern life is already hostile to the vast majority, being nice to folk is the least we can do.

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    You all are just making up shit to be mad about now. Bro, if ya call people negative names, good chance you get banned. From lots of communities. How about you just make your point without name calling?

    Try calling your boss a pussy. Then try telling that boss that you don’t see it as a bad word. See what happens.

    I’m not against calling people names. In fact, I love calling people pussies when I get pissed off. But I wouldn’t fall over in shock if some mod removed me for it. And I wouldn’t look into the history of the insult and try to find out why it’s not insulting. Language use is fluid. Lots of things are insults for weird reasons.

    Now you’re using this community to try to redefine insult words?!

    YDI

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    I think its funny how the word cunt is like asshole whereas pussy is like coward. I can’t think of any other part of the anatomy with such versatility.

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    Censoring speech because of choice of words… That’s pretty standard and well documented on here tbh

    You are going to speak however mods like or you won’t speak.

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      That’s how moderation on any platform works and has worked, yeah. Or do you suppose people have a fundamental right to start talking about how awesome Hitler was and how his ideas were actually pretty good and how we should replicate them in a modern context?

      Libertarian freedom of speech is such an embodiment of “tolerating intolerance,” and it can fuck right off. Refusing to learn to talk kindly doesn’t make you a hero, it makes you an asshole.