I wouldn’t say the atrocities in Gaza or the Donbas are EQUAL, no, not at all. For one thing, the Ukrainians are actually allowed to fight back without being labeled as terrorists. But Russia’s goals (and some actions, mostly conducted earlier in the conflict) certainly fit the definition of genocide
No, they don’t; that’s just the western liberal need to slap the genocide label on every bad thing enemy countries do (because they’ve already normalized every other war crime)
The internationally recognized, legal definition of a genocide is ‘the deliberate or systematic destruction, in part or in whole, of a national, racial, ethnic, or religious group’ including (among other things) the forcible transfer of children from one group to another. And Russia has been trying very hard for a while now to erase Ukrainians from eastern Ukraine and replace them with Russians.
‘the deliberate or systematic destruction, in part or in whole, of a national, racial, ethnic, or religious group’
Which Russia is not attempting to do.
And Russia has been trying very hard for a while now to erase Ukrainians from eastern Ukraine and replace them with Russians.
See what I mean? Western liberals will make up any old bullshit to accuse their enemies of genocide; which is a big part of why an actual genocide gets so little push back: because people like you have run the term into the ground.
And there it is: people like you have normalized every other war crime so much that someone like me, who thinks Russia is a fascist gangster state committing a brutal war of aggression but not a genocide, is completely indistinguishable from a literal Russian agent. That’s why you need it to be a genocide: because you want to condemn it, but you’ve already normalized every other atrocity so much that you don’t even see them as bad anymore. And you’re rabidly trying to do the same for genocide as well
That’s a lot of assumptions based on those two words I said. But for real though, why are we arguing the semantics when we’re both in agreement that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Israel’s genocide of Palestine are both atrocities that need to be stopped as soon as possible
That’s a good point. Not what I was trying to do but it probably came off as that way to some. Thanks for the insight
Certainly that was what that nonsense about “Russia enacting their own genocide barely 1000 miles away” ultimately is
I wouldn’t say the atrocities in Gaza or the Donbas are EQUAL, no, not at all. For one thing, the Ukrainians are actually allowed to fight back without being labeled as terrorists. But Russia’s goals (and some actions, mostly conducted earlier in the conflict) certainly fit the definition of genocide
No, they don’t; that’s just the western liberal need to slap the genocide label on every bad thing enemy countries do (because they’ve already normalized every other war crime)
The internationally recognized, legal definition of a genocide is ‘the deliberate or systematic destruction, in part or in whole, of a national, racial, ethnic, or religious group’ including (among other things) the forcible transfer of children from one group to another. And Russia has been trying very hard for a while now to erase Ukrainians from eastern Ukraine and replace them with Russians.
Which Russia is not attempting to do.
See what I mean? Western liberals will make up any old bullshit to accuse their enemies of genocide; which is a big part of why an actual genocide gets so little push back: because people like you have run the term into the ground.
Okay Botski, then what about this?
And there it is: people like you have normalized every other war crime so much that someone like me, who thinks Russia is a fascist gangster state committing a brutal war of aggression but not a genocide, is completely indistinguishable from a literal Russian agent. That’s why you need it to be a genocide: because you want to condemn it, but you’ve already normalized every other atrocity so much that you don’t even see them as bad anymore. And you’re rabidly trying to do the same for genocide as well
That’s a lot of assumptions based on those two words I said. But for real though, why are we arguing the semantics when we’re both in agreement that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and Israel’s genocide of Palestine are both atrocities that need to be stopped as soon as possible
A lie, as usual for NATOpedia. Ukraine after years of insistence by Russia prepared list of… 339 names, of which 161 was found living with parents in Germany.