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Helldivers 2 - Cinematic but against Sony


Please don’t reviewbomb Helldivers 2 as it’s no longer necessary🤗🫡

Just thought I’d share this as I found this to be very well made👌

  • tiberius@lemmy.caM
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    2 days ago

    It still has nProtect. So unless you like Publishers adding Kernel level anti-cheat to all the their multiplayer games…

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      nProtect sucks and if ah felt like they had to choose a kernel anti cheat they should have chosen anything else, but at least it’s disabled on linux? That’s better than a lot of other publishers.

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      2 days ago

      I hate kernel level anti cheat but I give them a pass because at least they support Linux and on Linux the anti cheat isn’t kernel level.

      Still would prefer they just don’t use kernel level anti cheat on all platforms

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      2 days ago

      I just searched nProtect and what the fuck😡

      That’s real annoying and also:
      I think this might be why Helldivers 2 keeps crashing on my friend’s PC🤔‼️

      I really hope the 🍀Stop Killing Games movement succeeds🍀💪💪, all this DRM, anticheat and anticonsumer bullshit is real annoying to say the least

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          as the campaign isn’t aiming for retroactive legislation

          This is true and you’re probably right.

          I’m just hoping that the future will turn out better than expected.

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            I have a tiny bit of hope that AH will remove nProtect and maybe even hand out some APIs for reverse-engineering projects like OpenCOMBAS to have something to work with, if Sony doesn’t pull a Nintendo and sue anyone for even trying

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          2 days ago

          Helldivers hasn’t shut down yet.

          SKG absolutely seeks to protect games that have already been published. It won’t apply to games that have already shut down.

          But if the game is still making money? On the hook it goes.

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            2 days ago

            The reason it’s not retroactive is that existing games and games already being developed would require significant efforts to restructure in a way that would make them compliant to proposed laws; SKG only seeks to protect games whose development has not begun yet, and games that are generating revenue being preserved is not a primary goal.

            How would you decide the cost of rewriting the innards of a live service anyway? It could go from a coffee and 200$ in cash paid to an intern, to an entire year and tens of millions of dollars spent between dev time, perpetual licenses and royalties.
            While I agree that they should spend that capital in the first place, you’d have to convince lawmakers - people without any technical expertise - that such policy wouldn’t do more harm than good.

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              It has to apply to current games. If we give an out to “current” games, it creates a loophole. Blizzard could avoid needing to comply by just “updating” Overwatch forever.

              When did the current Overwatch launch? Was it when it became Overwatch 2? Or was it all the way back when OW1 first came out?

              What about Destiny? Each expansion is essentially a whole sequel title to the last one, but does Bungie get to treat them as mere updates, unbeholden to preservation?

              What about WOW? Would something like Classic count as a new game? Or could Blizzard spin off new MMOs to skirt regulation?

              Could old games be entirely re-mastered and re-launched, and still not count?

              Obviously there should be some kind of phase-in. But there can be NO exceptions once it is in effect.

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                All those games are not exceptions, nor the main target of SKG.
                Keep in mind that we’re talking about what is currently a vague proposal, and an eventual phase-in will most likely be discussed by the initiative’s representatives; Ross discussed this in some of his update videos, at some point he even gave examples and Helldivers 2 was one of them (tbf he is not officially a part of SKG but whatever).

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                  All those games are not exceptions, nor the main target of SKG.

                  What? I’m not saying they are.

                  Ross has made it pretty clear that the target is ALL games.

                  Potential regulation does not need to be retroactive, in order to apply to current products.

                  The only thing the initiative definitely doesn’t look to do, is make publishers go back and spend resources on titles they haven’t touched in years. Unlike what your initial comment suggests, currently live games do not fall into that category.

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    Sorry about the double post for anyone that saw that😅; Voyager didn’t properly make the post so all that appeared on submission was just the title :S