Hey everyone, hope you’re doing well. For some time, lemmy’s been struggling with donations. For all these years, the lemmy devs, like them or hate them; have been building the software that powers the entirety of the forumverse (that’s what i’m calling it, fuck you) so if you have even a dollar/euro/peso/whatever to give, it would be greatly appreciated (by the lemmy devs, and all instance admins!)

Good day to y’all :D

crossposted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/29579005

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and I work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Unfortunately the amount of donations has decreased to only 2000€ per month. This leaves only 1000€ per developer, which is not enough to pay my bills. With the current level of donations I will be forced to find another job, and drastically reduce my contributions to Lemmy. To avoid this outcome and keep Lemmy growing, I ask you to please make a recurring donation:

Liberapay | Ko-fi | Patreon | OpenCollective | Crypto

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name “Luigi”.

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Dessalines and I work fulltime on Lemmy to keep up with all the feature requests, bug reports and development work. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. Previously I sometimes had to rely on my personal savings to keep developing Lemmy for you, but that can’t go on forever. We partly rely on NLnet for funding, but they only pay for development of new features, and not for mandatory maintenance work. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached Dessalines and I can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. Please use the link below to see current donation stats and make your contribution! We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

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  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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    Just to point out that the developer’s Marxism is truly an irrelevant thing in all places that matter. Their efforts in software development are 99% more impactful to your life than their theoretical support of authoritarian regimes will ever be. And as bad as their denial of historical or current event might be, they’re ultimately inconsequential. They’re not in charge of foreign policy. They would never have an impact in Chinese internal politics. However them being Marxist at least ensures that they nominally have their ideology towards the right location in support for the disenfranchised instead of the rich. Even if like 50$ per month go to the .ml instance, it truly matters very little.

    Honestly, people need to get some perspective on how much impact being a Marxist online has in the world. It has none. Marxists as a political force are mostly irrelevant no matter how eloquently they will try to claim global south revolutionary efforts as their own. Efforts in FOSS however is obviously very relevant and impactful.

    PS: Yes, their statements on transgender people are problematic, but they seem to want to retract them. Let’s see. EDIT: Welp

    All that said, if you still can’t bring yourselves to donate to lemmy devs because 0.1% of that might go towards the lemmy.ml hosting costs, you have no excuse to not donate to your own instance. Our donation buttons are on the main page and not only do you fund this instance, but also all the development efforts in tooling such as Threativore and Fediseer which are also FOSS.

    • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      4 months ago

      Extremely hinged post as usual. Even in light of the transphobia/non apology it is worth pointing out lemmy is one of the only places we can connect and discuss things like DIY hormones without censorship or corporate surveillance.

      Lemmy dying for lack of maintenance will not help us in the struggle for equality.

      • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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        4 months ago

        Nice to see you around again. How come you feel the need to use your dbzer0 account to comment instead of your day2day one?

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          4 months ago

          I just logged into this one to check this instance. the vtc one has less federation which is good for mental health, bad for large discussions. Also using either vtc or hexbear gets people doing the “ahhh you’re a tankie” thing eyerolling I was working with the extremely lib greens party over the election here haha. Anarchists, MLs, and Libs can all call me a traitor!

          Been busy, mate went through shit, going back to grad school to change career, local action group started and then died because of flaky people (<3 my anarchist comrades that are so against hierarchy even scheduling is too oppressive haha. Seriously I do although it’s very funny and fail).

          • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comM
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            4 months ago

            Ah well, ADHD and anarchism, name a more fitting combo :)

            Anyway glad to see you’re still active in our corner as well.

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      Bruh Nutomic doubles down on transphobia again and you still want your users to send him money? I’d take down the post if I were you. To be clear when Nutomic says “support Lemmy devs” he is literally saying “give me money so I don’t have to work.”

      There are other activitypub projects to support. Support piefed.

      • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        4 months ago

        As long as you and saline are involved: not a chance of my money going to the project

        This is the opinion of a vast portion of the userbase given the comments I’ve seen on this spam today

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          As long as the people who created Lemmy are involved with Lemmy, I will not donate.

          What a convenient excuse to never make any donation for the software you use every single day. You almost make me regret creating this platform.

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            4 months ago

            Thank you for creating this platform. It’s a critically needed service for discourse. I hope others reconsider their strong stances against you and Dessalines.

            Lemmy is of incredible value to humanity and not a moment passes where I am not grateful for this platform and the hard work put into it. I’m sure many, many others feel similarly.

          • rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            4 months ago

            not OP but for me its ur authoritarian beliefs that make me feel icky about donating to u, not the fact that yall created lemmy.

            not that i wouldnt look past that, but it does make me a bit more hesitant.

              • rivvvver@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                4 months ago

                i specifically said:

                not the fact that yall created lemmy

                ive been around on lemmy since very early on, back when dev.lemmy.ml was a thing, and ive seen my fair share of the tankie shit yall posted, so i think u know what im talking about actually.

              • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                4 months ago

                Play dumb all you want, that’s part of why you won’t get anything

                Either you’re willingly stupid or you know exactly what we mean and are playing dumb, neither deserves respect nor money

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    4 months ago

    The devs activly support calls for the deaths of all americans on ML. There needs to be a way of supporting the codebase without supporting the core devs…