• tory@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Using the term “normies” paints you as having a superiority complex, which isn’t the best look.

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      2 years ago

      I appreciate you calling out the use of the term “normie”. Communities that frequently use such terms always end up with an unhealthy “us vs them” mentality.

      Like I’m not surprised people don’t react well to someone bringing up privacy issues if said person starts the conversation with the mentality of “how do I enlighten this normie?”

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      2 years ago

      Being a normie isn’t the best look either.

      Misanthropy in current times is an indicator of a functioning brain.

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          There’s quite a leap from “absolutely everything is completely fine” to “I hate all humans”. Both are idiotic sentiments.

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      Really? I just interpreted the use of normie here as “layperson” or “average user” and thought it was completely harmless.

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        2 years ago

        Have someone refer to you as a normie and lmk if it feels neutral or derogatory.

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          2 years ago

          I can’t imagine normies getting worked up over what some internet nerd calls them

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      You’re not wrong. That said sometimes it can be self-deprecating.

      In any case, one substitute is “non-nerds”, but I’m sure someone can think of a term that fits even better in the meme.

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    2 years ago

    Much of the obsession internet people have over ““privacy”” is just a feel-good-about-themselves thing, rather than actually protecting themselves from their data being collected and used. If you’re posting on the internet, yes that includes Lemmy, there’s almost no doubt that any government and world-destroying corporation would have easy access to everything about you in an instant, even if you go out of your way to try to use services “focused on privacy”. You aren’t protecting yourself from anything by not using Google/Microsoft/etc. products.

    There is no “chipping away bit-by-bit” when it comes to this, it’s pretty much meaningless unless you’re nearly completely off the grid, to the point where you don’t even use modern technology. The worst you’re gonna do otherwise is fuck up targetted ads, but that’s not very hard to do considering Google apparently thought I was a pregnant woman looking for leather boots and beauty products when I still had ads on YouTube.

    I wish people would admit it’s really not about their privacy. Say it’s because FOSS services are better (because they are), say it’s so you don’t get spam from shitty sites you gave your email to, say it’s so you can fit in in your niche online communities, whatever. But 99.99% of people in “privacy” communities haven’t even put a dent in the data being collected from them by large entities, hell most people in these communities think VPNs will protect them from anything at all other than their parents or boss not noticing them being on porn sites (VPNs can help with privacy, but only under specific conditions that most people aren’t meeting)…

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          e2ee is almost meaningless on a closed source app or system… whats stopping them from sending a copy of your files unencrypted?

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            Well, it would most likely show up in the network traffic if they were doing that for starters. And no one doing security analysis on iOS has ever mentioned that AFAIK. And since Apple bases about 90% of their marketing on protecting your privacy, that would be very bad for them as a company.

            I mean, what’s stopping someone poisoning a library on open source? That’s actually provably happened.

            Which is not to ding open source, which I quite like too. Just saying you are running certain risks no matter what you choose and in a phone OS, if you just want it to work and not think about it, I personally feel like Apple is a decent risk still.