DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.

Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.

Unrelated……

The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.

What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.

This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.

And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.

  • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Locking this topic because y’all clearly can’t stop trying to argue politics. Please use the relevant comms instead and not the comments of YPTB posts.

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    This is also blatant misinformation. No judge ever made a finding that he was associated with MS-13. The government asserted it in court but it’s never been proven. The immigration proceedings largely revolved around his asylum application, interview, and testimony.

    So they’re lying in an attempt to make it sensational enough to bust past due process. For an example of how that looks long term, check Duterte’s regime in the Philippines. Many people were killed extrajudicially and written off as drug dealers.

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      Based on the spectacular feat of mental gymnastics you performed in order to find a way to make all of this the democrats fault- I’m going to assume you’re not here in good faith and respond in kind:

      🫵 lol

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              The mental gymnastics are astounding that you have come to the conclusion that somehow, I can become self-inflicted by something you helped MAGA achieve.

              Brilliant work there.

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                  I wonder what the approval rating for non-voting mouth-breathing blowhards is? It’s got to be in the lower 2’s.

                  I guess it’s good for you that no one can check, isn’t it?

                  Considering that this discussion is not even close to the point of the meme and since you seem to just want to see if you can out-snark me, I’m going to just end this here.

                  Get that last word in and be sure to make it a good’n!

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    “He’s MS-13!” Prove it in court then. Fuck me I’m tired of Americans being 100% wrong about everything and then trying to sound adult by having lengthy ‘debates’ about it.

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        On the off-chance that you don’t actually know that what you’ve said is incorrect, here’s a link to wikipedia. Skip on down to the section, “2019 detention and bond hearings.” You’ll see that whatever dumbass told you that a court “proved” that Mr. Garcia was related to MS-13 was saying that ICE found that he couldn’t prove he wasn’t, once, and they upheld that he couldn’t prove he wasn’t, on an appeal. Neither of which is proving anything in court once, let alone twice.

        Further, an immigration judge granted him “withholding of removal” status. This is notable because it’s much harder to get a “withholding of removal” than getting granted asylum, because you have to prove that if you’re sent to the country in question, the government will either persecute you, or choose not to protect you from prosecution.

        So, to recap, it’s not only not been proved that this guy has any relation to MS-13, but it’s been proven to an actual court that if he gets sent to El Salvador, the Barrio 18 gang will kill him. Because the only evidence he has any connection to a gang, is that there’s a gang that wants to kill him.

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          Wrong. About pretty much everything you just said.

          https://ijr.com/doj-releases-full-dossier-of-evidence-that-abrego-garcia-was-ms-13/

          He was proven to be MS-13. He doesn’t have to prove he isn’t, they have to prove he is - and they did. Twice. That’s how courts work.

          FYI Wikipedia is not a trusted or reliable source. Avoid using it in future. There’s a reason it’s not allowed as a source in higher education.

          Also wrong about the withholding of removal order. He was not granted that due to government persecution - he was granted it because the main rival gang to MS-13 would likely target him. What a strange thing to rule if he isn’t an MS-13 member, right?