oh right we all forgot China bad

I don’t think your views would be welcome in anarchist spaces either lol…

Violence is necessary but mass murder of different viewpoints isn’t that kind of violence.

Are you gonna keep the death penalty for any dissenting opinions after the revolution? How very anarchist

I don’t disagree, I asked my rhetorical question because this “forest management” argument is often being made in bad faith by right wing climate deniers who also scoff at government spending.

We can extrapolate your logic to climate action at large. Stop meat and dairy related subsidies, stop fossil infrastructure, invest in alternative and sustainable systems even if there’s an apparent short term cost.

It’ll be cheaper than what’s coming…

It’s an ROI thing, as people are pointing out. You’re hand waving that part away. A small business has to weigh an small annual fee and loss of control against buying expensive hardware and paying the salary of one or more IT professionals to maintain their in house systems. This also scales with the size of the company and their data, it’s expensive for a small company to buy one or two servers and storage solutions, it’s expensive for a big company to buy 20 of the same.

You also lose out on off-site backups (without more investment of course) and global availability. Will every company that has a global team roll out servers in every global region? Small companies can have global teams as well.

It’s simply not cost effective for everyone to have their own infrastructure. Cloud infrastructure is the same as any other infrastructure, it is cheaper to pool resources and share

You’re treating data as a special unicorn. Why don’t companies manufacture their own computers? Why don’t they build their own delivery vans?

I bet you fully support the government spending to do so?

If it’s not about “climate change” and it’s about poor management then I guess we got worse at managing it proportional to the accumulation of GHGs in the atmosphere. What a coincidence.

You’re talking about a possible mitigation strategy as if the lack of extra mitigation is the root cause. Token acknowledgments of “climate change” and “yeah it’s a bit warmer” are thin veils on your denialism

ok what do you think that costs? you’ve clearly given this a lot of thought to have such a strong opinion.

last word!

Please obey I mod Lemmy

i disagree with your priorities in life and the degree to which minute power makes you feel large

Follows in what way? Chronologically? Am I to believe you’re predicting the future?

pay the court fine or serve your sentence, your stolen goods are now forfeit

peak Lemmy world behavior

The right doesn’t have a monopoly on hate, the difference is you’re always punching down

ah yes lack of self awareness too

yes we get it you’re a conservative, you don’t have to prove it by continuing to try to twist facts to match your predetermined worldview

Empathy can absolutely develop over time. This rhetoric is not useful. Even dumb fucking right wing pieces of shit feel empathy when their in-group is affected.

If hate can be learned so can empathy, what you’re suggesting is dehumanizing

I’m with you that the economic system is the root cause of the problem and I’m fighting that battle too in my own way. I have too much to lose to really fight it, but there’s a lot more direct action and community involvement I could be doing. Ideologically, though, I’m anti-capitalist and believe that the way forward is collectivism in the form of anarcho-communism.

That’s a lot harder to achieve than going vegan, though.

fair enough, no shortage of problems from the wealthy and capitalism at large.

one battle at a time